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 Post subject: Wrong sort
 Post Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:28 pm 
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Signing the right sort.

When you hear pundits talking about Man Utd needing new talent you think no its deeper than that.

Many of those players wouldn't have taken liberties under Sir Alex.

Strollers, more interested in the latest haircut and image, all that kind of bollocks.

Think back to when Pep first arrived at City with some of the current squad only coming alive and running when their team was on the ball.

Pep watched that for a while, then he acted, those INDIVIDUALS first players suddenly found themselves sidelined.

They then had the choice, work harder, run a lot or fuck off.

So the key was the mentality change.

Looking at Wolves stats for the season, who ran the most in midfield?

Ruben Neves, a player with all the talent but just as important a player who would put the hard yards in for the team.

Below is an account of what went wrong at Stoke because they signed the wrong sort and fro that the culture changed.

The contrast with his final couple of seasons at Stoke City is stark. There were real highs at the start of his four-and-a-half years at the club, but by the end “I wasn’t really having any influence and there was no point in me being there”, he says.

In his first three seasons, Stoke achieved consecutive ninth-placed finishes - a height they hadn’t reached since the mid-seventies - under manager Mark Hughes. After that, things quickly unravelled when a new style of play - or rather a new style of player - was introduced.

“We had the most hard-working and honest group of players I’d ever encountered in those first few seasons at Stoke,” says Roden, their former Head of Sports Science.

“John Walters, Glenn Whelan, Charlie Adam, Peter Crouch, Ryan Shawcross, Robert Huth - they would run through a brick wall for you. They craved work, their nutrition was right, their sleep was right, they paid attention to what they had to do for recovery.

“They realised they were professionals and they wanted longevity. The problems came when those players were filtered out. Then you’re trying to get more talented players to buy into the same work ethic, which unfortunately didn't happen.”

By the time Paul Lambert took over as manager from Hughes in January 2018, the club was in the relegation zone and in disarray behind the scenes.

Saido Berahino, signed for £12m in January 2017, was soon banished to the Under-23s for persistent lateness and poor discipline; Kevin Wimmer, an £18m signing in August 2017, was deemed unfit to play; record £18.3m transfer Giannelli Imbula was loaned to Toulouse in August 2017, 18 months after his arrival; and former Barcelona player Ibrahim Afellay, signed in July 2015, was told to stay away from the club for criticising his team-mates in training.

“The DNA of Stoke had changed,” Roden remembers. “The players that came in didn’t buy into a hard training culture. They felt, ‘no, we’re footballers’. Well, yes, but you’re in the Premier League and you need to run.

“When players are not willing to work as hard in training, or to look after their bodies, or to give everything in a game, that’s going to affect fitness and results. When Paul Lambert suggested some players weren’t fit enough he was bang on. It wasn’t anything that hadn’t been discussed a season before though.”

At the same time as a new profile of player was coming in, there also started to be a 'safety first' approach to training, Roden says, with players being protected too much by the medical team, rather than pushed by the sports scientists.

“Sometimes it can be a battle between the sports science and medical teams at a club, with the manager in the middle," he says. "That's why it’s good to have an overarching Head of Performance who oversees both, which is what we are starting to see.

"We had high availability for the first couple of seasons at Stoke, but then there was this prevailing thought that we needed to protect the players, so volume and intensity decreased.

“You need to expose players to the demands of the game, otherwise they’re vulnerable to breaking down. If a player hasn’t hit their maximum speed in the week, how will you prevent them getting injured when they have to do it in a game?

"Because we weren’t training hard enough, players started to get injured. If you don’t have your best players available then results suffer.

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 Post subject: Re: Wrong sort
 Post Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:18 am 
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very interesting that analogy, KK and it looks about spot on about Stoke.

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The balance between " Put a shift in" and " Primadonna " needs a manager with vision and strength of character else it all goes tits-up.


We have one.

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All the talent in the world is useless if the attitude is wrong and they aren't prepared to sweat blood. Thank the Lord, Wolves don't suffer from this disease currently. Recruitment is 100% vital to be spot-on.

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Worked with Pogba's cousin, he was a lazy, entitled waste of space too.

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 Post subject: Re: Wrong sort
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THE BIG BAD WOLF wrote:
Worked with Pogba's cousin, he was a lazy, entitled waste of space too.


This Belgium kid who Monaco are looking to unload on the Premier league this summer.

40 million to Leicester if they wish to bite.

They wont.

Monaco wish to unload because the coach says he has the heart of a pea when the going gets tough.

Much like Pogba.

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