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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:45 pm 
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He apparently (according to Twitters) came alive after Mir came on!


I thought he had a good match throughout really. He is still not back to his best but he caused them some trouble. What Mir seemed to give as well as a couple of decent runs was some height to cross to.


Haha, The Wolves Way - you'll upset the footballing purists with those kind of remarks. :|


It would have been PURE magic to me if he had buried one of his headers.

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:41 pm 
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There are some players who like to feel the touchline by their side it comforts them.

Pep found that when he was looking to transform players at City, now with time it happens.

I remember Shankly had similar thoughts with Peter Thompson.


Not to nitpick Knocker,just wondering how you know what Shankley's thoughts were.
Did he pass his thoughts on to you.


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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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wolfrunna wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
There are some players who like to feel the touchline by their side it comforts them.

Pep found that when he was looking to transform players at City, now with time it happens.

I remember Shankly had similar thoughts with Peter Thompson.


Not to nitpick Knocker,just wondering how you know what Shankley's thoughts were.
Did he pass his thoughts on to you.


As a youngster Peter Thompson had been a schoolboy star playing as an INSIDE forward.

Pre 1971 Cup final Shanks had been asked could Stevie Heighway and Peter Thompson play in the same team.
They did when Thompson replaced former Wolf Alun Evans, as Thompson was involved in Liverpools opener scored by Heighway.
Another player Shanks considered for a more central role.

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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knocker knowles wrote:
wolfrunna wrote:
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There are some players who like to feel the touchline by their side it comforts them.

Pep found that when he was looking to transform players at City, now with time it happens.

I remember Shankly had similar thoughts with Peter Thompson.


Not to nitpick Knocker,just wondering how you know what Shankley's thoughts were.
Did he pass his thoughts on to you.


As a youngster Peter Thompson had been a schoolboy star playing as an INSIDE forward.

Pre 1971 Cup final Shanks had been asked could Stevie Heighway and Peter Thompson play in the same team.
They did when Thompson replaced former Wolf Alun Evans, as Thompson was involved in Liverpools opener scored by Heighway.
Another player Shanks considered for a more central role.


I think Thompson was good enough to play to play anywhere front line.
Maybe Shanks just wanted to accommodate the emerging Highway.


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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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"]There are some players who like to feel the touchline by their side it comforts them.

Pep found that when he was looking to transform players at City, now with time it happens.

I remember Shankly had similar thoughts with Peter Thompson.[/quote]

Not to nitpick Knocker,just wondering how you know what Shankley's thoughts were.
Did he pass his thoughts on to you.[/quote]

As a youngster Peter Thompson had been a schoolboy star playing as an INSIDE forward.

Pre 1971 Cup final Shanks had been asked could Stevie Heighway and Peter Thompson play in the same team.
They did when Thompson replaced former Wolf Alun Evans, as Thompson was involved in Liverpools opener scored by Heighway.
Another player Shanks considered for a more central role.[/quote]

I think Thompson was good enough to play to play anywhere front line.
Maybe Shanks just wanted to accommodate the emerging Highway.[/quote]

By the time Heighway was due a run Thompson was near finished, knees.

We can see with how Mee used John Radford the early stages of whats happening today, with no fixed position strikers.

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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Is Costa a starter at the moment because with the owner watching at the weekend there is a wish to protect his market value.

Or do you believe its all about selection on merit?

Is there a chance he will be moved on this window?

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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Aparently. Lambert wants him at Stoke. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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All Costa needs is a goal and then he'll take off.. confidence, that's all he's lacking.

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Costa has had one purple patch, under Lambert. Don't think he fits Nuno's more rigid system and suspect the chance of Prem football will tempt him, especially as he isn't first choice.

If Fosun can make a small profit on him, I suspect they will. If Mendes has another player lined up then they can move him in, and it is another transfer fee.

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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THE BIG BAD WOLF wrote:
Costa has had one purple patch, under Lambert. Don't think he fits Nuno's more rigid system and suspect the chance of Prem football will tempt him, especially as he isn't first choice.

If Fosun can make a small profit on him, I suspect they will. If Mendes has another player lined up then they can move him in, and it is another transfer fee.


Is this a wind-up? :) Can't see it's rigid for the front three. There's been more movement in the attacking third this season than the last five put together. I would have thought it suited Costa perfectly.

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I think there is a case for Costa to be playing a simple game where he holds one area of the field and tries to create one on one situations.

With the more fluid system when one rotates the others generally rotate taking Costa away from his comfort zone.

Has a local journalist asked Nuno's thoughts on Costa at this time, it would be of interest to the fans.

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THE BIG BAD WOLF wrote:
Costa has had one purple patch, under Lambert. Don't think he fits Nuno's more rigid system and suspect the chance of Prem football will tempt him, especially as he isn't first choice.

If Fosun can make a small profit on him, I suspect they will. If Mendes has another player lined up then they can move him in, and it is another transfer fee.


Is this a wind-up? :) Can't see it's rigid for the front three. There's been more movement in the attacking third this season than the last five put together. I would have thought it suited Costa perfectly.


Costa likes to get to the byline, in our current system the inside forward stays in the inside forward role.

Costa is our most exciting player, Jota our most effective, but it is clear he is not performing to his best. I can see a logic in moving him on for the right money, if we have someone else lined up.

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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I think you give costa a pre-season and in the Premiership when teams won't be scared to attack us, he's pace and ability to run at players will be a massive asset.

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 Post subject: Re: Helda Costa
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People have short memories, he kept us in the league last year on his own pretty much. He was out a long time, it’ll probably be next season he’ll be fully upto it after a proper pre-season. I wouldn’t even contemplate selling him.


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THE BIG BAD WOLF wrote:
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Costa has had one purple patch, under Lambert. Don't think he fits Nuno's more rigid system and suspect the chance of Prem football will tempt him, especially as he isn't first choice.

If Fosun can make a small profit on him, I suspect they will. If Mendes has another player lined up then they can move him in, and it is another transfer fee.


Is this a wind-up? :) Can't see it's rigid for the front three. There's been more movement in the attacking third this season than the last five put together. I would have thought it suited Costa perfectly.


Costa likes to get to the byline, in our current system the inside forward stays in the inside forward role.

Costa is our most exciting player, Jota our most effective, but it is clear he is not performing to his best. I can see a logic in moving him on for the right money, if we have someone else lined up.


Every player has his price, if Paul Lambert wants him he can afford him, but what should be that price?

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People have short memories, he kept us in the league last year on his own pretty much. He was out a long time, it’ll probably be next season he’ll be fully upto it after a proper pre-season. I wouldn’t even contemplate selling him.


Exactly my thoughts. Costa is fine and is still improving.

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Every player has his price, if Paul Lambert wants him he can afford him, but what should be that price?


Ask Jorge. 8)

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Every player has his price, if Paul Lambert wants him he can afford him, but what should be that price?


Ask Jorge. 8)


He should buy a horse and call it that.

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