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 Post subject: Ronan or MGW
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:00 pm 
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Ronan or Morgan Gibbs White.

I have been baffled by this hype around MGW and struggle to see what he offers..


Looking into the future who will go further in the game Ronan or MGW?


I go Ronan every time.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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I know what you mean re MGW. He benefits from a love-affair with some fans, and the 'one of our own' label.

But he is now of an age where if he IS going to be a dominant force, the needs to show more.

Neves was only 19 when he came here. Like MGW, he is not blessed with great pace, BUT he has quickness of feet and thought to compensate. He is also a thousand times stronger - harder to knock of the ball, and stronger in the challenge.

Unfair to compare, maybe, but MGW still seems very much 'a boy' when compared the 'the man' that was Neves at the same age.

Ronan is a disappointment, but again linked to his 'lightness' and lack of pace. Surely he can find a club to give him a decent career, if not the one we once dreamed (along with him!) he might have!

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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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Different folks mature at different rates, and a lot can happen between eighteen and twenty three. After starring in the Chump for us Ronan should have been brought on better, also I suspect he will be a late developer. I haven't seen him play since Citeh away in the league Cup, MGW has shown some real moments of quality in the Prem so no comparison, at the moment.

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THE BIG BAD WOLF wrote:
Different folks mature at different rates, and a lot can happen between eighteen and twenty three. After starring in the Chump for us Ronan should have been brought on better, also I suspect he will be a late developer. I haven't seen him play since Citeh away in the league Cup, MGW has shown some real moments of quality in the Prem so no comparison, at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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knocker knowles wrote:
Ronan or Morgan Gibbs White.

I have been baffled by this hype around MGW and struggle to see what he offers..


Looking into the future who will go further in the game Ronan or MGW?


I go Ronan every time.


I find myself in agreement with Knocker regarding MGW.There is something there but I don't see
what his admirers do.
He's young and has plenty of time to mature and kick on.
I haven't seen enough of Ronan to give an opinion.


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wolfrunna wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Ronan or Morgan Gibbs White.

I have been baffled by this hype around MGW and struggle to see what he offers..


Looking into the future who will go further in the game Ronan or MGW?


I go Ronan every time.


I find myself in agreement with Knocker regarding MGW.There is something there but I don't see
what his admirers do.
He's young and has plenty of time to mature and kick on.
I haven't seen enough of Ronan to give an opinion.


Well knock me over with a feather.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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What disappoints me about MGW is his lack of awareness of how to find space.

It's like rewatching Dele Alli in the World Cup last summer: He just doesn't know where the gaps are so every time the ball falls his way it's in a crowded area where his touch needs to be spot on to control it or a first time pass out of that crowded scene, and MGW can't manage either at present.

He's only really looked impressive when we have played the better teams who have pushed up and left more space in their own half for him to run 10-15 yards into and go past players in that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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knocker knowles wrote:
wolfrunna wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Ronan or Morgan Gibbs White.

I have been baffled by this hype around MGW and struggle to see what he offers..


Looking into the future who will go further in the game Ronan or MGW?


I go Ronan every time.


I find myself in agreement with Knocker regarding MGW.There is something there but I don't see
what his admirers do.
He's young and has plenty of time to mature and kick on.
I haven't seen enough of Ronan to give an opinion.


Well knock me over with a feather.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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The bits of Ronan I saw impressed me, or should I say, the bits of what I saw when Ronan played, impressed me.

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One has won an age group world cup, is regularly involved in a premier league squad and has the trust of a world class manager.
Other has failed at Portsmouth, Walsall and is now plying his trade in Hungary or some other backwater in the hope of establishing himself.

I know who my money is on :)

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One has won an age group world cup, is regularly involved in a premier league squad and has the trust of a world class manager.
Other has failed at Portsmouth, Walsall and is now plying his trade in Hungary or some other backwater in the hope of establishing himself.

I know who my money is on :)



Would your money be on MGW scoring a goal this season?

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knocker knowles wrote:
CRADLEY DAVE wrote:
One has won an age group world cup, is regularly involved in a premier league squad and has the trust of a world class manager.
Other has failed at Portsmouth, Walsall and is now plying his trade in Hungary or some other backwater in the hope of establishing himself.

I know who my money is on :)



Would your money be on MGW scoring a goal this season?


Different Question...............Probably not, its not quite going for MGW at the minute. I trust Nuno 100%

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CRADLEY DAVE wrote:
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CRADLEY DAVE wrote:
One has won an age group world cup, is regularly involved in a premier league squad and has the trust of a world class manager.
Other has failed at Portsmouth, Walsall and is now plying his trade in Hungary or some other backwater in the hope of establishing himself.

I know who my money is on :)



Would your money be on MGW scoring a goal this season?


Different Question...............Probably not, its not quite going for MGW at the minute. I trust Nuno 100%


Just for a bit of fun, prediction for this season and next season MGW maximum of 1 Premier league goal.
Yep trust Nuno 100%, best manager I can remember in over half a century.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronan or MGW
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How many will Moutinho get? Neves gets the odd long range effort and benefits from taking FKs. I can see him getting one or two, but also adding to his assists.

I would like to see a dedicated no 10, shame we spent our cash on Traore rather than Maddison.

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THE BIG BAD WOLF wrote:
I would like to see a dedicated no 10, shame we spent our cash on Traore rather than Maddison.


Don't think Maddison would've been willing to sign for a newly-promoted club ahead of Leicester.

As much as WE knew what our potential is/was, outsiders were hard to convince, which is why most of our recruits were via Mendes and Traore desperate to leave Pulisball/the Championship behind.

Next summer Wolves will be far better placed to recruit talents from within England. Once Villa's parachute payments run out maybe we could get Greasy on the cheap?

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The chance to get Maddison and Wolves were in for him was when he was at Coventry.

Thelwell and Moxey were looking at 2.5 million tops.

Norwich brokered a deal which could see Coventry receive up to 7.5 million.


David Brooks from Sheffield United looked a good option for Wolves.

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I think MGW will open his account before the end of October.

Why do I always thing of that Dutch darter geezer when I type MGW lol

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The chance to get Maddison and Wolves were in for him was when he was at Coventry.

Thelwell and Moxey were looking at 2.5 million tops.

Norwich brokered a deal which could see Coventry receive up to 7.5 million.


David Brooks from Sheffield United looked a good option for Wolves.


I wonder whether clubs actually took us seriously in the end?!

Is Moxey still 'assisting' Burton Albion?

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The chance to get Maddison and Wolves were in for him was when he was at Coventry.

Thelwell and Moxey were looking at 2.5 million tops.

Norwich brokered a deal which could see Coventry receive up to 7.5 million.


David Brooks from Sheffield United looked a good option for Wolves.


I wonder whether clubs actually took us seriously in the end?!

Is Moxey still 'assisting' Burton Albion?


Moxey couldn't work out having sniffed a bargain from a club struggling financially how those deals ended up gazumped.
Lost us a few top targets by offering way below the market rate. Penny pincher.

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http://fcdac.sk/hu/video/2019/02/09/oes ... erkozesrol

Ronan scores. Not sure about the standard but they are second in the mighty Slovak top flight. Then again he got MON for Walsall on his debut and it fizzled out for him there.

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Still waiting for MGW to show me he can make a living out of playing football.

This kid wouldn't get a regular game at Championship level.

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Would like to see Ronan given a go with the change in system. We used to not need a ten but we do now, if only our small squad wasn't packed with wingers.

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Still waiting for MGW to show me he can make a living out of playing football.

This kid wouldn't get a regular game at Championship level.


Afraid I agree. Another desperately ineffective performance in last 20 minutes.

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Never mind his performance (I can only recall him touching the ball once in 25 mins), what did we think of his haircut? :lol: :!:

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Won rave reviews early in the season but seems to have lost all confidence.

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Won rave reviews early in the season but seems to have lost all confidence.


I might be wrong but I dont see a lack of confidence, more a cocky attitude that believes he should be given opportunity rather than earn the opportunity.


I would promote Ennis to the Wolves bench and leave him out until he can grasp a few basics.

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Won rave reviews early in the season but seems to have lost all confidence.


NOT a 'confidence' issue, I am sure. Possibly is with Costa, but MGW looks full of confidence - it is just that it seems misplaced.... He runs around like a puppy - keen, but rather aimless.

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When MGW played his cameos earlier in the season, think Arsenal away, he picked the ball up, ran at the opposition, and tried to make something happen. Why would you stop doing that when you get your next opportunity? Maybe his attitude hasn't been right, thought he'd made it, and Nuno has quashed that. Heard an interesting story of what he did the day he left Sir Thomas Telford, which involved a McDonald's carton...

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I'm undecided about MGW. He's shown flashes of quality that many players don't possess but doesn't produce consistently. He's worth persevering with I think, perhaps a loan out to the championship as has been suggested.

Ronan, from what little I've seen of him will make a career in the lower leagues. Too lightweight and you do have to question why he made little to no impact at Walsall.

The harsh truth is that for where Fosun want this club, neither will be here in 3 years time. Ronan definitely won't be.

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MGW starts, lets have a good look at his contribution today.

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