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Thatcher the God of Greed

We all must remember why the UK is plunging into the deepest
financial crises it has ever know in its history, even deeper than
the Wall Street crash of 1929 ...

For Britain it stared in the 1980s with the most reviled political
leader this country has ever spawned, a member of a party whose
philosophy has always been and always will be “stuff you lot, we
come first”, a party of pure selfishness and ultimate greed....

The Tory Party under the leadership of “The Maggot” decimated our
country with her sick sense of worth and greedy attitude to our
Nationalized Industries and spectra of the City Spivs rubbing their
hands in glee at every “sell off” of what belonged to every man
woman and child in Britain. “The Maggot” first made her mark in
British politics when she decided that the British school children
of the day should not receive free school milk, the first vile sign
of her true greedy nature....

That period of time was repugnant to witness; the “Family Silver”
was being stolen from its rightful owners, the people of Britain,
who were powerless to change the course of history....

Starting with the sale of GPO, this galvanised the
“pig-in-the-trough” mentality of the City and the Tory party, who
grabbed and gobbled whole swathes of the “Silver” that has kept many
of them and their aristocratic families in great luxury, even to
this very day....
At the time the “Maggot” was worshiped like a demy God by all those
foul creatures in the City and a great deal of her party gave praise
to the greedy one, mass unemployment was her vile tool to keep the
“other half” in their place at the bottom of the heap, typical of
many party tricks she lavished on the British public....

She single handed insured closure of nearly all our state owned
coal mines and alienated great masses of the British public against
her, but her down fall came when the greedy bitch tried and failed
to bring in the hated Poll Tax, which caused mass riots all over
Britain....

Her sell-by-date had passed; her own gutless MPs were drawing straws
to tell her to pack her bags and go, for they knew that she had
become a great liability to them winning another election that was
on the horizon.....

But the this evil creature had done more damage to the British
culture than the historians will ever admit when its time to write
her obituary, for she fostered the notion that greed is good and
there is no such thing as society, the attitude adopted by millions
of young Britons who became known as Yuppies, who are amongst the
leading political tribe of the Tory party, for they have the same
uncaring attitude as there mentor, the “Maggot”. ...

The scene is now set for the final phase of “The Thatcher God of
Greed”; politics in Britain is brim full of Thatcher’s children,
even in the Labour party her philosophy of “Sell everything” for a
fat buck is alive and well, but now it’s called PFI.....

No checks and balances are in place, even after the greedy banks
went bust, they still worship the criteria that greed is good and
until an example of rightful punishment is meted out to those you
stole the worlds wealth, greed will always be good....

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She was the hardest working PM we have ever had.

How quickly we forget the country closing factories at a rate never seen before in the early seventies as the power unions restricted supply over an attempt to curb rampant inflation caused by their unbelievable wage demands.

The resultant 3-day week saw off the Tory leadership as the electorate didn't understand. However 1979 and the winter of discontent opened the eyes of even the most blinkered of the red and in came Mrs Thatcher despite the "candle" posters.

Without her ( agreed often rabid ideas, but cometh the hour cometh the grocer ) we would be an industrialised desert of closed factories chained, unwanted, and desolate camps of workers outside in the dirt still looking for an "Owner" to blame even though the "Owners" were forced out by the Union Officials many years before.

I have said on here before, IMHO, her reliance on the "road makers" money to the detriment of the railways was shameful and tarnished her image in my eyes for ever. However, she was a wonderful Great Briton, and I for one will always be proud of her many achievements ( despite the obvious faults)

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Interesting myth.

How quickly we forget the country closing factories at a rate never seen before in the early seventies as the power unions restricted supply over an attempt to curb rampant inflation caused by their unbelievable wage demands.

British workers were far behind both German and USA workers in relative pay scales.

Management in English companies were taking the piss with excessive pay levels.

Now if you pay the workers more- reasonable levels you have people spending within their own communities.
Spending then creates jobs and cash flows throughout the whole country. Something that still takes place in Germany today.
Vibrant economies are created by a far fairer pay system, not the rich getting richer and trying to break the working class.
There should have been a General strike in support of the miner's but to many folk just didn't have the backbone.
Thatcher will always be the bastard tool in my eyes that the City used to fool the British public.
We haven't recovered, this greed is good bollocks serves only the idle rich.

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loved maggie, fucked off all the shirkers, and union wankers, goddess......
labour have done more damage under blair and brown than thatcher ever did..

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He was right then and he's fuckin right now.

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Interesting myth.

How quickly we forget the country closing factories at a rate never seen before in the early seventies as the power unions restricted supply over an attempt to curb rampant inflation caused by their unbelievable wage demands.

British workers were far behind both German and USA workers in relative pay scales.

Management in English companies were taking the piss with excessive pay levels.

Now if you pay the workers more- reasonable levels you have people spending within their own communities.
Spending then creates jobs and cash flows throughout the whole country. Something that still takes place in Germany today.
Vibrant economies are created by a far fairer pay system, not the rich getting richer and trying to break the working class.
There should have been a General strike in support of the miner's but to many folk just didn't have the backbone.
Thatcher will always be the bastard tool in my eyes that the City used to fool the British public.
We haven't recovered, this greed is good bollocks serves only the idle rich.



Tosh

I have tried but not yet succeeded in finding the clip of the I think it was the "Hornby" Train guy crying on the BBC.

His was a family firm built from nothing who paid his staff the highest wages he could afford but was attacked by the Unions on National television as after over a hundred year he had to close his business as a strike called in "sympathy" for the energy sector had made him miss vital orders and he simply had gone bust.

The Unions called him a fascist and worse for closing his company. Poor bloke had mortgaged his home and sold his possessions to try to keep it open, and the loony left who had broke him and by extension themselves, were blaming him.

A face of socialism you may wish to hide Knocker......

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He was right then and he's fuckin right now.

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Whatever the rights and wrongs I love to see that man in action. He was reviled as an evil nutter by the right wing press during the 70's and 80's but I have to say that he looks and sounds very rational to me.

I was never a Thatcher fan, I always felt that she lacked compassion and I do think that she was largely responsible for developing a "me, me" society. I can't pretend, however, that the left were all goodness and light and there were times when they went too far. It's this old action - reaction thing which leads to escalation and people becoming entrenched in their positions.

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blair is the anti christ, evil bastard introduced the human rights shit for his wife to get rich off.
i'd gladly do time to rid the world of this c*** .

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blair is the anti christ, evil bastard introduced the human rights shit for his wife to get rich off.
i'd gladly do time to rid the world of this c*** .



You are not too keen on him then?

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Too many slag off the tories cos labour are the working mans party innit without really questioning anything. The Tories are a bunch of toffie nosed poofs who will tax the fuck out of everyone...Labour are a bunch of toffie nosed poofs who will spend all our money on fucking millenium domes and courting Rihanna cos things can only get better.

Fuck all of em I say, viva La Revolucion!

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Back in the day we wern't afraid to be proud of being english/British,we had influence around the world and we had some stature as a country and now?? :mrgreen:
If anyone thinks Thatcher is worse than Blair then ask the 140,000 civilians who have died(oh you can't they are dead) because of that ******** lies and incompetence in Iraq and Afghanistan.
How many coalition forces have died?Thousands.How many have been wounded??Hundreds of thousands??
Add to that(the rather minor charge compared to the above)of flooding our country for the sake of votes and we wonder why the country is financially *******.
Yes thatcher must be the anti-christ :mrgreen:

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The media , right wing and far sighted strategists of capital saw Blair as the new face of Thatcherism at a time when the Tories were in crisis. They were pushing for Blair to become Labour leader because they knew what he stood for. They would only allow Labour into power (because of the mess the Tories were in ) if lead by someone like Blair - the rest is history. A lot of grass roots ( well those who had not been expelled by the right wing) Labour supporters bought into the idea that Blair was some sort of messiah leading Labour to victory and sowing the seeds of 'new' Labour and the 'third way'. This ran alongside old Stalinists within the party hell bent on creating a behemoth of bureaucratic bullshit when we needed more nurses, hospitals, schools , teachers, houses and so on rather than managers and yet more managers. The Labour party died the day Clause four, part four of the constitution was dropped , however, it is still embedded within working class culture as the party of the working class, until this fallacy is understood by those voters we will continue to suffer the likes of Blair, Mandy Mandleson and the goon brothers pretending to carry the same banner as the likes of Benn , Nellist and Skinner. Only nine per cent of sitting Labour Mp's have a working class background , so what do they have in common with the likes of me and my life?. Millions are still donated from the unions to the Labour party, for what?. It is time they pulled out and began setting up a real representative party.


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The media , right wing and far sighted strategists of capital saw Blair as the new face of Thatcherism at a time when the Tories were in crisis. They were pushing for Blair to become Labour leader because they knew what he stood for. They would only allow Labour into power (because of the mess the Tories were in ) if lead by someone like Blair - the rest is history. A lot of grass roots ( well those who had not been expelled by the right wing) Labour supporters bought into the idea that Blair was some sort of messiah leading Labour to victory and sowing the seeds of 'new' Labour and the 'third way'. This ran alongside old Stalinists within the party hell bent on creating a behemoth of bureaucratic bullshit when we needed more nurses, hospitals, schools , teachers, houses and so on rather than managers and yet more managers. The Labour party died the day Clause four, part four of the constitution was dropped , however, it is still embedded within working class culture as the party of the working class, until this fallacy is understood by those voters we will continue to suffer the likes of Blair, Mandy Mandleson and the goon brothers pretending to carry the same banner as the likes of Benn , Nellist and Skinner. Only nine per cent of sitting Labour Mp's have a working class background , so what do they have in common with the likes of me and my life?. Millions are still donated from the unions to the Labour party, for what?. It is time they pulled out and began setting up a real representative party.


I've spoken to a few at work who vote labour because they always have,i try and explain that they havn't and they don't understand.I don't anymore either :mrgreen:

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The media , right wing and far sighted strategists of capital saw Blair as the new face of Thatcherism at a time when the Tories were in crisis. They were pushing for Blair to become Labour leader because they knew what he stood for. They would only allow Labour into power (because of the mess the Tories were in ) if lead by someone like Blair - the rest is history. A lot of grass roots ( well those who had not been expelled by the right wing) Labour supporters bought into the idea that Blair was some sort of messiah leading Labour to victory and sowing the seeds of 'new' Labour and the 'third way'. This ran alongside old Stalinists within the party hell bent on creating a behemoth of bureaucratic bullshit when we needed more nurses, hospitals, schools , teachers, houses and so on rather than managers and yet more managers. The Labour party died the day Clause four, part four of the constitution was dropped , however, it is still embedded within working class culture as the party of the working class, until this fallacy is understood by those voters we will continue to suffer the likes of Blair, Mandy Mandleson and the goon brothers pretending to carry the same banner as the likes of Benn , Nellist and Skinner. Only nine per cent of sitting Labour Mp's have a working class background , so what do they have in common with the likes of me and my life?. Millions are still donated from the unions to the Labour party, for what?. It is time they pulled out and began setting up a real representative party.


Believe it or not, I totally agree with this post.

I am not and never will be a Labour supporter. However, I would love to see a genuine party supporting the traditional labour voter.......We don't have one now, and it is needed for our system can only ever be semi-honest with checks and balances.

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astubliffhacked wrote:
blair is the anti christ, evil bastard introduced the human rights shit for his wife to get rich off.
i'd gladly do time to rid the world of this c*** .



You are not too keen on him then?


well he's ok........... :lol:

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the wealth must be shared
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7DZSagDI4

Classic example of how the idle rich use the working man to fight the working man.

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Please Google "South African Farming Disaster"

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Shaping your child’s mind around the spirit of socialism is not only beneficial to their psychology; it’s beneficial to their society.

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I don't know about socialism per se, but I try to get my kids to respect life, in all it's forms, even the ones we feed upon.
Oh and to swear, and also in the case of jamey who wears glasses, that ANY violence in response to 'four eyes' 'speccy git' taunts is acceptable and will teach the specsist gits a lesson they'll never forget.

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If you think that is what economies do – produce, transport and distribute – you along with the ONS are hopelessly mired in the 20th century, back before Big Finance bought us the New Economy. Have a look at the chart below. In the second quarter of this year, UK agricultural output was down, construction was down, and all production activities together increased by a meagre 0.25% (the ONS category, “production” includes mining, manufacturing and public utilities, which to me is a suspiciously socialist sounding concept).

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