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12 years after the Nazi concentration camps were shut down, the British empire opened up concentration camps in Kenya.


I think you'll find that we opened our first during the Boar War.

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12 years after the Nazi concentration camps were shut down, the British empire opened up concentration camps in Kenya.


I think you'll find that we opened our first during the Boar War.


Tue, the Japanese have always been the Worlds best copiers.

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1,400 jobs to be slashed at a Birmingham NHS Trust. Remember Cameron "I'll cut the deficit not the NHS"

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Public school.

71% senior judges
62% senior armed forces officers
55% permanent secretaries (top civil servants)
53% of senior diplomats.


Not my kind of society, whatever happened to meritocracy?

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Boris Johnson airport on the river, thats another 5 million wasted on consultation fees.

One rule for the idle rich, another for you.

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Public school.

71% senior judges
62% senior armed forces officers
55% permanent secretaries (top civil servants)
53% of senior diplomats.


Not my kind of society, whatever happened to meritocracy?


But if you look at their academic results, they probably did get the opportunity to progress through merit.

Now having the opportunity through family wealth to get that start is another issue, but in isolation, not many thick cnuts in your list Knocker.....

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Public school.

71% senior judges
62% senior armed forces officers
55% permanent secretaries (top civil servants)
53% of senior diplomats.


Not my kind of society, whatever happened to meritocracy?


But if you look at their academic results, they probably did get the opportunity to progress through merit.

Now having the opportunity through family wealth to get that start is another issue, but in isolation, not many thick cnuts in your list Knocker.....


I reckon it is a safe bet to assume that none of the above in the list post on here or stand on the South Bank. :wink:

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6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.

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6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.


Did your hero Weggie stand in an NHS queue Knocker ?

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6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.


Did your hero Weggie stand in an NHS queue Knocker ?


What I'm pretty sure of is if the NHS had followed socialist principles we wouldn't to this day have anything but a first class system free at the point of entry to everyone.
Without waiting lists, without having to book a Doctors appointment a week or more before your actually ill.

You shouldn't play with peoples life's, privatisation does, it costs them. Pun intended.

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knocker knowles wrote:
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6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.


Did your hero Weggie stand in an NHS queue Knocker ?


What I'm pretty sure of is if the NHS had followed socialist principles we wouldn't to this day have anything but a first class system free at the point of entry to everyone.
Without waiting lists, without having to book a Doctors appointment a week or more before your actually ill.

You shouldn't play with peoples life's, privatisation does, it costs them. Pun intended.


KK tell me who and what party would have delivered that please and how.Cheers.

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ker knowles"]6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.[/quote]

Did your hero Weggie stand in an NHS queue Knocker ?[/quote]

What I'm pretty sure of is if the NHS had followed socialist principles we wouldn't to this day have anything but a first class system free at the point of entry to everyone.
Without waiting lists, without having to book a Doctors appointment a week or more before your actually ill.

You shouldn't play with peoples life's, privatisation does, it costs them. Pun intended.[/quote]


KK tell me who and what party would have delivered that please and how.Cheers.[/quote]


A peoples party that finds out the true cost of everything,
who then hire an accountant who then produces readily available fully transparent income and expenditure accounts.

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ker knowles"]6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.


Did your hero Weggie stand in an NHS queue Knocker ?[/quote]

What I'm pretty sure of is if the NHS had followed socialist principles we wouldn't to this day have anything but a first class system free at the point of entry to everyone.
Without waiting lists, without having to book a Doctors appointment a week or more before your actually ill.

You shouldn't play with peoples life's, privatisation does, it costs them. Pun intended.[/quote]


KK tell me who and what party would have delivered that please and how.Cheers.[/quote]


A peoples party that finds out the true cost of everything,
who then hire an accountant who then produces readily available fully transparent income and expenditure accounts.[/quote]

Power and money corrupts KK.Wouldn't be long before they were engulfed in an expenses scandal or the like.

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ker knowles"]6000 private patients sent to NHS hospitals to put right botched treatments,as private didn't have intensive care wards etc

I hope they didn't jump the queue.


Did your hero Weggie stand in an NHS queue Knocker ?


What I'm pretty sure of is if the NHS had followed socialist principles we wouldn't to this day have anything but a first class system free at the point of entry to everyone.
Without waiting lists, without having to book a Doctors appointment a week or more before your actually ill.

You shouldn't play with peoples life's, privatisation does, it costs them. Pun intended.[/quote]


KK tell me who and what party would have delivered that please and how.Cheers.[/quote]


A peoples party that finds out the true cost of everything,
who then hire an accountant who then produces readily available fully transparent income and expenditure accounts.[/quote]

Power and money corrupts KK.Wouldn't be long before they were engulfed in an expenses scandal or the like.[/quote]

The more power you seek the more transparent and accountable should be your actions.
Those found to flaunt that power should pay the price with harsh deterrents such as jail time.

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Read 1984 (again) KK. Your idealism simply does not take into account human nature. If there was an accountant capable of working in the way you ask, his/her skills would be invaluable and he/she would soon be expecting a bigger chunk of reward or would simply stop doing things so well.

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Read 1984 (again) KK. Your idealism simply does not take into account human nature. If there was an accountant capable of working in the way you ask, his/her skills would be invaluable and he/she would soon be expecting a bigger chunk of reward or would simply stop doing things so well.


Thats why you have full transparency to eliminate greed and corruption as much as possible.
Then by adding deterrents you control those who have thoughts of stitching up other human beings.

Not everyone has greed and money as their gods, many people do have a deep moral conscience believe it or not.


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Read 1984 (again) KK. Your idealism simply does not take into account human nature. If there was an accountant capable of working in the way you ask, his/her skills would be invaluable and he/she would soon be expecting a bigger chunk of reward or would simply stop doing things so well.


Thats why you have full transparency to eliminate greed and corruption as much as possible.
Then by adding deterrents you control those who have thoughts of stitching up other human beings.

Not everyone has greed and money as their gods, many people do have a deep moral conscience believe it or not.


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Neil Kinnock talked a good game too kk. :wink:

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Read 1984 (again) KK. Your idealism simply does not take into account human nature. If there was an accountant capable of working in the way you ask, his/her skills would be invaluable and he/she would soon be expecting a bigger chunk of reward or would simply stop doing things so well.


Thats why you have full transparency to eliminate greed and corruption as much as possible.
Then by adding deterrents you control those who have thoughts of stitching up other human beings.

Not everyone has greed and money as their gods, many people do have a deep moral conscience believe it or not.


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If they stand locally, I'll probably go with them. Otherwise it's that Trade Union thing Low Hill keeps bigging up, or outright independents. It says a lot though, that in order to protect the NHS he doesn't turn to Labour but forms his own party instead.

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Just spent the early hours at New Cross,we got a nice bed in a corridoor along with another 6 people until we were found a cubicle about 1 1/2 later.The corridoor queue was still hefty,maybe 7 or 8,when i looked 2 hours later.
You could tell the staff were under pressure with juggling who was to go where but also that this was normal for them.All i will say is the hospital is full,no room at the inn.Under that sort of pressure no wonder mistakes are made.

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Just spent the early hours at New Cross,we got a nice bed in a corridoor along with another 6 people until we were found a cubicle about 1 1/2 later.The corridoor queue was still hefty,maybe 7 or 8,when i looked 2 hours later.
You could tell the staff were under pressure with juggling who was to go where but also that this was normal for them.All i will say is the hospital is full,no room at the inn.Under that sort of pressure no wonder mistakes are made.


Coming off the back of that Welsh lady dieing of a heart attack while waiting for over half hour in an ambulance outside.
The BBC owe the British public the knowledge of whats going on, i fear for a free press within the UK.
Mass rallies not getting reported, it really is a mess of a vital public service.

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Banks fined record £2bn over foreign exchange rigging, send the bastards to jail, these guys deal at three trillion a day.
Thats not even a slap on the wrist.

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Good call from Ed Balls to use the £1 billion fine on banks for libor fixing to address the mounting crisis in the NHS now.
I doubt the Tory BBC will give this enough coverage.

For those of you who live in the Walsall area, did you know your local free paper carries right wing bias.

In the Chonicle they headline with.

JOY AS RUBBISH PLAN DUMPED.
Which celebrates a decision to throw out a proposed rubbish tip in Walsall.

What was newsworthy and placed wide right and in small letters Was news that two babies died prematurely, and that local hospitals hadn't the facilities to help those babies.
They had to be transported to Liverpool.

Just think about that, at some time or another a baby could be born into your family prematurely, it could happen to you.

Ask yourself, what can i do to prevent those circumstances.
Ask your self why a local newspaper should think more about a rubbish dump.

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Banks fined record £2bn over foreign exchange rigging, send the bastards to jail, these guys deal at three trillion a day.
Thats not even a slap on the wrist.


Who gets the £2 Billion?

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BBC Right wing bias all over the place again, sickening this brainwashing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12 ... f=uk&ir=UK

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Knocker, it seems that I received this Christmas card in error when it was obviously meant for YOU. :lol:

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More than 300 patients a day are having operations cancelled because of lack of beds. The NHS is safe in Cameron's hands?

Bunch of rubbery muppets in power and getting worse by the day.

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More than 300 patients a day are having operations cancelled because of lack of beds. The NHS is safe in Cameron's hands?

Bunch of rubbery muppets in power and getting worse by the day.


Cancelled or postponed Knocker?

There aren't enough beds because Left Back's Mate is buying them up on the quiet. :wink:

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More than 300 patients a day are having operations cancelled because of lack of beds. The NHS is safe in Cameron's hands?

Bunch of rubbery muppets in power and getting worse by the day.


Cancelled or postponed Knocker?

There aren't enough beds because Left Back's Mate is buying them up on the quiet. :wink:


I have to write very complex and verbiose reports full of loquaciousness to cover that up Moscow.

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Birmingham hospitals now very close to bursting point as the tipping point reaches new levels.

Meanwhile by stealth the Tories are channeling tax payers money from the NHS into the more expensive private sector.
Scandalous it really is. Pigs in a trough, if you voted for these guys you should feel ashamed of yourself.

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