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 Post Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:45 am 
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When the modern world throws up a despotic, dictator, the world has no problems in standing tall and taking action. Hitler, Saddam, Assad............ They're evil, we can relate.

How is it when a sect of a religion goes bad it is politically incorrect to identify them as evil and importantly leaves us impotent when it comes to calling for arms to put these people down ?

Our ancestors didn't have this problem. The "Moors", the "Hun" the generic Persians, not a problem, get together and put them down, why not these evil bastards in the Middle East ?

Rest assured if we wait until they are at our door ( if they're not here already) the Guardian readership will welcome them and denounce any of the free thinking who try to point out they actually kill people who don't believe in the idiocy they believe in and will force the "Guardian" to be printed in Arabic and show pictures of non-believing C of E vicars being beheaded in public.

Hitler decided that Jews, Gypsies, the mentally ill, free masons and just about any Slav was to be put to the sword. These bastards wish to exterminate everyone that does not believe in their version of a creed. That equates to around, rough guess 77% of the worlds population who should convert to Islam or be killed............77%.

Is this post inciting racial hatred ? The PC world will say yes. But please read it from the top. People of any religion (any) who love freedom and respect their fellow man and his right to live, vote and worship as he pleases within the laws of the land where he lives, should be concerned, very concerned about what's happening now and join hands to put these people to bed............for ever.

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It has been going on since the Crusades, but Muslims, even Radical Muslims never attacked any Western country (by my reckoning) since America started its modern day Crusades.

If I was a Muslim then, I too would be angry and want justice for the indiscriminate massacres of mainly civilian populations . If we had just left them alone and defended our own borders without pre-emptive strikes every time a Cleric preaches 'kill the infidels' then, there would have been no 9/11 or 7/7 and many other memorable dates to follow.

WHY the fook should I or YOU care about Women's rights in Afghanistan - it isn't going to change the price of fish during my lifetime. As long as the oil is flowing from the Middle East at reasonable market prices then, WHY should I interfere in their Shia Law or whatever dastardly evil things they do. Let them rise up on their own without spilling our own young blood fighting for what exactly - this misnomer called freedom and democracy.

The UK has more CCTV cameras than the rest of Europe. Google and your Smartphone knows where you are, where you have been and the last time you watched Porn, your sexual preferences and how long you watched it for - Freedom my Arse.

What makes us any better than those you have different values as they're just different values and as alien to them as theirs are to us. Don't get me wrong, I am not waiving the white paper or wearing the white feather, just give me something worth fighting for, a just cause as those young Ukrainians who are going home to don uniforms and weapons to fight for their country against foreign aggression.

I could and would do that even at my age, but I am not going to go to some fly infested shit-hole to bleed or die for some Camel herder who's civil rights have been violated according to Amnesty International or whoever.

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if I believed that their aambition rested with their own little piece of hheaven i would agree with you.
However, i think they want mine as well
They ain't getting it.

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if I believed that their aambition rested with their own little piece of hheaven i would agree with you.
However, i think they want mine as well
They ain't getting it.


I hope you're wrong as I have 74 million of them less than an hour's drive away in Turkey whereas, you have a mere 200+ million in Indonesia. Can you hold your Front whilst I stuff and baste the Turkey. :lol:

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Moscow Wolf wrote:
suiging wrote:
if I believed that their aambition rested with their own little piece of hheaven i would agree with you.
However, i think they want mine as well
They ain't getting it.


I hope you're wrong as I have 74 million of them less than an hour's drive away in Turkey whereas, you have a mere 200+ million in Indonesia. Can you hold your Front whilst I stuff and baste the Turkey. :lol:


I thought I knew my geography, but didn't realise you could go on a day-trip to Istanbul! What about Turkey and the EU? http://www.debatingeurope.eu/focus/infobox-arguments-for-and-against-turkeys-eu-membership/#.U5yQmYU1giE

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Moscow Wolf wrote:
It has been going on since the Crusades, but Muslims, even Radical Muslims never attacked any Western country (by my reckoning) since America started its modern day Crusades.

If I was a Muslim then, I too would be angry and want justice for the indiscriminate massacres of mainly civilian populations . If we had just left them alone and defended our own borders without pre-emptive strikes every time a Cleric preaches 'kill the infidels' then, there would have been no 9/11 or 7/7 and many other memorable dates to follow.

WHY the fook should I or YOU care about Women's rights in Afghanistan - it isn't going to change the price of fish during my lifetime. As long as the oil is flowing from the Middle East at reasonable market prices then, WHY should I interfere in their Shia Law or whatever dastardly evil things they do. Let them rise up on their own without spilling our own young blood fighting for what exactly - this misnomer called freedom and democracy.

The UK has more CCTV cameras than the rest of Europe. Google and your Smartphone knows where you are, where you have been and the last time you watched Porn, your sexual preferences and how long you watched it for - Freedom my Arse.

What makes us any better than those you have different values as they're just different values and as alien to them as theirs are to us. Don't get me wrong, I am not waiving the white paper or wearing the white feather, just give me something worth fighting for, a just cause as those young Ukrainians who are going home to don uniforms and weapons to fight for their country against foreign aggression.

I could and would do that even at my age, but I am not going to go to some fly infested shit-hole to bleed or die for some Camel herder who's civil rights have been violated according to Amnesty International or whoever.

Do like a good rant before bib bibs I do. :wink:




Ukaine are no different to what happened in the arab upheavals, they get rid of a democratically elected government and moan when it turns to shite.A proper cause?To me it isn't.

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Ukraine are no different to what happened in the arab upheavals, they get rid of a democratically elected government and moan when it turns to shite.A proper cause?To me it isn't.


Debatable whether truly democratically elected just like Putin keeps winning and then swapping places with Medvedov just to satisfy their Constitution or, Lukashenko in Belarus changes the Constitution so that he can remain back to back to back President.

The 'elected' Ukrainian President did very little for the Ukrainian people except line his own pockets, the Ukrainians saw how their neighbours Poland had advanced and wanted some of the same. America wanted a more in-line Western orientated leader and pushed the EU to offer this and that, but the President preferred to lean towards Russia and the people revolted first peacefully and then, violently.

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Moscow Wolf wrote:
suiging wrote:
if I believed that their aambition rested with their own little piece of hheaven i would agree with you.
However, i think they want mine as well
They ain't getting it.


I hope you're wrong as I have 74 million of them less than an hour's drive away in Turkey whereas, you have a mere 200+ million in Indonesia. Can you hold your Front whilst I stuff and baste the Turkey. :lol:


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Moscow Wolf wrote:
kenbarlowsslippers wrote:
Ukraine are no different to what happened in the arab upheavals, they get rid of a democratically elected government and moan when it turns to shite.A proper cause?To me it isn't.


Debatable whether truly democratically elected just like Putin keeps winning and then swapping places with Medvedov just to satisfy their Constitution or, Lukashenko in Belarus changes the Constitution so that he can remain back to back to back President.

The 'elected' Ukrainian President did very little for the Ukrainian people except line his own pockets, the Ukrainians saw how their neighbours Poland had advanced and wanted some of the same. America wanted a more in-line Western orientated leader and pushed the EU to offer this and that, but the President preferred to lean towards Russia and the people revolted first peacefully and then, violently.


We get/got what no fecker wants here too and they are corrupt and lining their own pockets.Anyone for a revolution :mrgreen:

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