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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:00 pm 
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Just received a call from someone with an Indian accent on a bad line saying that they were from Microsoft and that my pc had been sending warning messages over the last two weeks and they wanted to check it out. He knew me by my full name but I didn't trust what he was saying though he was trying to be persuasive about me switching the pc on and continuing with his instructions. Eventually he gave up. He rang from a "with-held" number.

The missus did a Google search and discovered it's a scam which leads you to giving them your financial details.

Now, my regret is that I didn't just sit down at the pc and pretend to follow his instructions in order to see where this leads and then finally tell him to fuck off.

Anyone else had this call?

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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:11 pm 
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SELWolf wrote:
Just received a call from someone with an Indian accent on a bad line saying that they were from Microsoft and that my pc had been sending warning messages over the last two weeks and they wanted to check it out. He knew me by my full name but I didn't trust what he was saying though he was trying to be persuasive about me switching the pc on and continuing with his instructions. Eventually he gave up. He rang from a "with-held" number.

The missus did a Google search and discovered it's a scam which leads you to giving them your financial details.

Now, my regret is that I didn't just sit down at the pc and pretend to follow his instructions in order to see where this leads and then finally tell him to fuck off.

Anyone else had this call?


No Sel been on the phone myself most of the day sorting out a new business venture so i've been otherwise engaged.
Just a quickie Sel,what's your 3 digit security number on your mastercard?Only got as far as the long number on the front......

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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:34 pm 
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Just a quickie Sel,what's your 3 digit security number on your mastercard?Only got as far as the long number on the front......


666 :P

At least I've warned everyone what to expect if it happens to them.

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:26 am 
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Yes, had this a couple of times.

They are trying to get you to open up your computer to allow remote access, which would mean they would be able to browse your files, browsing data, passwords etc. If they got into someones computer who did their banking online they would have an empty account in no time.


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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:25 pm 
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Yeah had them loads of times, depending on my mood I either tell them to fuck off or play along. They will guide you to the windows error log and then try and set up a remote access session to clear it. Its possible the vulnerable \ elderly \ non-savi will subscribe to the service as they think they are MS Certified technicians, its fuck all to do with Microsoft.

My record in keeping one on the phone is around 73 minutes, he actually held for over 15 minutes whilst I supposedly turned my PC on, after an hour he was puzzled as to why I couldn't logon to his site and passed me over to a senior tech. A further 10 mins or so elapsed and then I told him I don't have the internet ...he told me to fuck off and die :lol: job done screwed your night up...

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Very good, General. :wink:

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Just had another call from them (03002 proxy number) but it was a Chinese woman this time. I was having a nap and told her to f*** off. Had I been awake and downstairs I would have thought more carefully about how to waste her time. Bastards.

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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:22 pm 
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Had another call today, this time from an Indian woman.

I immediately put on a real surprised performance in the style of David Walliams - even the missus said it was amusing. Anyhow, I could her sniggering and commenting to someone in the background and I pretended to press the keys which she told me to but strangely she seemed to know that I hadn't and despite me assuring her that I had she snapped and called me a "fucking arsehole" and slammed the phone down. :lol: Still I wasted a few minutes of her time.

However, my daughter told me that I should have rung off straight away as other people have done similar things and what they can do is somehow do a reverse charge to your own phone line. She'd researched it on the web and someone had had to pay over £40.

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How do they know you have Internet or even a computer connected to it in the first place?

Wouldn't it be useful to record these calls?

Back in the day when the Kitchen and Double Glazing companies used to call on an evening, I just used to tell them that the house was rented and they'd say thank you and hang up. At least they were trying to sell me something overpriced, but not scam me.

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How do they know you have Internet or even a computer connected to it in the first place?

Wouldn't it be useful to record these calls?

Back in the day when the Kitchen and Double Glazing companies used to call on an evening, I just used to tell them that the house was rented and they'd say thank you and hang up. At least they were trying to sell me something overpriced, but not scam me.


They hide behind a six digit proxy telephone number that starts 0300--. They have your IP number, name and telephone mumber. Their technology is very clever and I wouldn't mind betting it's the same equipment used by Norton etc who can have remote access to your computer when you connect to them. It only takes one click of a key and they're in, changing the password and then you get locked out. I wouldn't be surprised if they're associated with Norton employees.

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How do they know you have Internet or even a computer connected to it in the first place?

Wouldn't it be useful to record these calls?

Back in the day when the Kitchen and Double Glazing companies used to call on an evening, I just used to tell them that the house was rented and they'd say thank you and hang up. At least they were trying to sell me something overpriced, but not scam me.


They hide behind a six digit proxy telephone number that starts 0300--. They have your IP number, name and telephone mumber. Their technology is very clever and I wouldn't mind betting it's the same equipment used by Norton etc who can have remote access to your computer when you connect to them. It only takes one click of a key and they're in, changing the password and then you get locked out. I wouldn't be surprised if they're associated with Norton employees.


That be scary that - what protection does the law provide if any laws are being broken. I guess that if you press all the buttons as requested by someone pretending to be someone else and end up losing data, money or both then it is some kind of confidence trick or fraud.

Didn't you say in the OP that they pretend to be from Microsoft or similar? Shouldn't the Company they're pretending to represent want to be informed as they do when you get Phishing emails as it is damaging their company image at the end of the day.

I bloody hate Norton and it used to be a barsteward to try to get rid of it. Any time anything came bundled with Norton, I refused it point blank. Even now you have to be so careful when updating a genuine programme - unless I remember to un-check the tick box, I start downloading McAfee with Flash Player update.

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Yes, they say that Microsoft are concerned about a violation on your computer as they are getting warning signals from your IP number. Microsoft say that they would never telephone anyone and that you should put your phone down immediately.

I'm not saying that they are from Norton (Norton have been very good for me sorting problems out) but these criminals are based in India and what they do by remote access is just the same kind of thing - except Norton are helpful at cleaning gremlins out. Just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection...ex-employees, for example.

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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:13 pm 
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SELWolf wrote:
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How do they know you have Internet or even a computer connected to it in the first place?

Wouldn't it be useful to record these calls?

Back in the day when the Kitchen and Double Glazing companies used to call on an evening, I just used to tell them that the house was rented and they'd say thank you and hang up. At least they were trying to sell me something overpriced, but not scam me.


They hide behind a six digit proxy telephone number that starts 0300--. They have your IP number, name and telephone mumber. Their technology is very clever and I wouldn't mind betting it's the same equipment used by Norton etc who can have remote access to your computer when you connect to them. It only takes one click of a key and they're in, changing the password and then you get locked out. I wouldn't be surprised if they're associated with Norton employees.

Not technically true they have your IP address. For instance I make out I have at least 10 pc's when I ask which one they are are on about they are unable to advise the WAN IP , when I ask them to quote the MAC address the fun often ends. Also you don't need specialist software to set up a RAS remote access session between two PCs you can do it with standard windows operating system, often help the outlaws this way, did take additional config of her router though.


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I'll just be putting the phone down next time, mate, after a few choice words. :wink:

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Good lad, the choicer the better ... 8)


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I'm sure that it was the same Chinese woman who called yesterday and three times today. I swore at her the first two times but I'm sure that she's just trying to wind me up so I put the phone down straight away as soon as she starts speaking.

They must earn some money from the scam to keep ringing the same numbers back. I've heatd that others are plagued by them.

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I've had several of these calls. The last one argued with me when I told him I didn't have a Windows computer as I use an Apple system. He spent ten minutes arguing that one with me which I thought was funny as he was wasting his time not mine given I had a day off from work and was doing nothing in particular.

Play along with them and waste their time - it's fun if you have the time. This one also said his name was Brian Jones and he had a very strong Indian accent, I asked him if it was his real name and he told me it was and who am I to disbelieve him!

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The art of wasting a time wasters time, yeah do that quite often, usually trying to keep them online while continuing with your own work.

Usually involves acting completely thick, looking for a pen, waiting for an imaginary son/daughter.wifes assistance to understand.
Freezing of computer imaginary, all kinds of shenanigans, it gets tougher after about half an hour, especially with the imaginary interruption at the door of your furniture removals.

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