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Author:  SilverstoneWolf [ Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  VAR

VAR 'agreed in principle' for Premier next season.

Views?

I think it will be a disaster, and will create more problems than it solves.

PLEASE put any review in the hands of the coach, and limit to one per half (to continue of successful) as in American football, and cricket.

Everyone going on about Charlie Adams moan about his disallowed goal last week, but no-one mentions in same game the clear penalty for the opposition... so VAR would have probably got the same result if a different scoreline!

Just accept mistakes happen, and recognise they are VERY rarely 'clear and obvious'.

To quote Cloughie 'football is a simple game'. Keep it that way.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

I accept that modern football has chosen a totally different path than I would have wished.

So best for the young folk to continue modelling it as they wish it.

Consider me to old to vote.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

A rule change I would make and its because of the kind of football I grew up with is with yellow cards.

I would introduce 4 yellows before a red was produced.

In an effort to bring contact and tackling back into the game.

Football was not just about pass pass pass.

Defenders cant defend any more.

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

In todays modern game, bygone players like Norman Hunter, Billy Bremner, Peter Storey, Willie Young, Jack Charlton, Jim Holford et al would never complete a full ninety minutes as they'd be red carded every game...

Author:  SilverstoneWolf [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

I was really disappointed today.

We were 2-0 down, were being outmuscled and out-pressed all over the park.... and we hadn't had a SINGLE yellow card.

Could you imagine Rae, Cameron, Ince, Hibbitt, etc etc allowing that to happen?

Ince would have taken one of the midfielders off at the knees and gladly accept his booking, if it meant he a) got the crowd going and b) showed them he wasn't going to be disrespected.....

Yellow card have become ridiculous. Refs keep them in pocket, then suddenly sprinkle like confetti, and someone gets a 'red' for the most innocuous of reasons. Pathetic.

I am too old. AT least Neves seems always wiling to 'get stuck in'.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

It may not always come off for Ruben Neves, but he never hides.

Love his type of player for so many reasons.

He could go to clubs and look a million dollars every week, popping it around for fun.

What he does for this Wolves team, the sacrifice of himself for others is just quality.

We will never find better in so many ways.

Class act.

Author:  THE BIG BAD WOLF [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

Ruined a very good game last night, a lot of decisions are marginal and VAR won't change that. I hope they manage to sort out the issues of sticking to only glaring errors and not having to wait after every goal for VAR approval.

Author:  SilverstoneWolf [ Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

See my first post.

ALWAYS knew this would be a disaster for the game. It is AWFUL - and not just because it cost us 2 extra points today!

I will be writing to the FA. They need to know how they are ruining OUR game.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

Its sad. Jobsworths creating a salary for themselves and friends.

Maybe in twenty years time the only football to be clean from interference will be lower league and Sunday league.
If those lower levels still exist.

Author:  MichiganWolf [ Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

Having experienced replay in most American sports for the last 20 years, I don't think it will be the end anything significant in footy. It's way down on the list of things that cause a sport to lose its romance.

For me, it's all about the speed and consistency. If the handball on Boly is dealt with as quickly as it was on Sunday, and it's called consistently in both boxes, regardless of whether its an attacker or defender, I won't have many complaints. I think VAR was far more successful in the Prem so far than it was at the men's and women's World Cups, where it was incredibly slow and had some questionable decisions.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

I never thought in any sport the referee should be the centre of attention.

Author:  Left back [ Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

MichiganWolf wrote:
Having experienced replay in most American sports for the last 20 years, I don't think it will be the end anything significant in footy. It's way down on the list of things that cause a sport to lose its romance.

For me, it's all about the speed and consistency. If the handball on Boly is dealt with as quickly as it was on Sunday, and it's called consistently in both boxes, regardless of whether its an attacker or defender, I won't have many complaints. I think VAR was far more successful in the Prem so far than it was at the men's and women's World Cups, where it was incredibly slow and had some questionable decisions.


The law is specifically inconsistent now though. You can't score a goal if there has been an accidental handball in the build up. However, it is not a penalty if there is an accidental handball in the defending team's box. Wait until a defender prevents a goal because the ball hit him on the upper arm. He then boots it upfield and a forward scores. It is not a penalty because it was an accidental handball and it is not a goal because he handled in the build up, but hang on, if it is no goal because of the hand ball then it was a free kick to the opposition so it's a penalty. Doh!

Author:  MichiganWolf [ Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

knocker knowles wrote:
I never thought in any sport the referee should be the centre of attention.


That'd be ideal, but I don't know what sport doesn't have the referees as the center of attention at some point or another. Is it worse for them to be the center of attention while awaiting a replay decision or to have them be the center of attention for screwing up an important call in an important game? Personally, I prefer having replay if it's implemented well. It works incredibly well in the NHL in North America. For the NBA and NFL, it distracts from the game.

Author:  Left back [ Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

50 years on, I still hate Bomber Brown because the ref missed his handball.

Author:  Rozza [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

knocker knowles wrote:
I never thought in any sport the referee should be the centre of attention.


The person or persons that should be at the centre of attention are the people who changed the laws to incorporate an accidental handball into the goal rules. They should be held to account and provide the rationale and reasons to the public as to why they believe that it was a proper change to the rules, why they thought it was necessary, and present their provenance in the game in order to wield such power.

Author:  Left back [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

Rozza wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
I never thought in any sport the referee should be the centre of attention.


The person or persons that should be at the centre of attention are the people who changed the laws to incorporate an accidental handball into the goal rules. They should be held to account and provide the rationale and reasons to the public as to why they believe that it was a proper change to the rules, why they thought it was necessary, and present their provenance in the game in order to wield such power.


Absolutey - but I'm watchng out for the pigs overhead.

Author:  MichiganWolf [ Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

Rozza wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
I never thought in any sport the referee should be the centre of attention.


The person or persons that should be at the centre of attention are the people who changed the laws to incorporate an accidental handball into the goal rules. They should be held to account and provide the rationale and reasons to the public as to why they believe that it was a proper change to the rules, why they thought it was necessary, and present their provenance in the game in order to wield such power.


Yep, people will get upset with VAR about what happened to Man City, but it was the correct call according to the rules. Problem with this isn't VAR, but the letter of the law.

Author:  MichiganWolf [ Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VAR

Rozza wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
I never thought in any sport the referee should be the centre of attention.


The person or persons that should be at the centre of attention are the people who changed the laws to incorporate an accidental handball into the goal rules. They should be held to account and provide the rationale and reasons to the public as to why they believe that it was a proper change to the rules, why they thought it was necessary, and present their provenance in the game in order to wield such power.


Yep, people will get upset with VAR about what happened to Man City, but it was the correct call according to the rules. Problem with this isn't VAR, but the letter of the law.

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