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Author:  SELWolf [ Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:00 am ]
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Tragic, that's all I can say beyond that despite being worth watching it's not imo as good as it's hyped up to be.

I've read about the historical inaccuracies but they don't bother me - it's not a documentary. The French don't like it because quite rightly they did play an important part in the evacuation and lost a lot of men but the film isn't about them, it's about a small number of inter-twined stories which make it an intriguing film but it isn't a great one and it could do with being a bit longer. I'd give it 7/10.

Author:  suiging [ Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:11 am ]
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I see your point SEL, but I just couldn't get passed the glaring historical errors. I always hate American productions for re-writing history, I suppose I hoped for better from this. 5/10 for some decent acting at times.

Author:  SELWolf [ Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:19 am ]
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suiging wrote:
I see your point SEL, but I just couldn't get passed the glaring historical errors. I always hate American productions for re-writing history, I suppose I hoped for better from this. 5/10 for some decent acting at times.

The historical errors include the noses of the messerschmitts being yellow whereas at Dunkirk they weren't, the height of the air battles was deemed too low (but I suppose there would have been some low encounters), the fighters were not supposed to be able to see what was happening in detail on the ocean surface as they'd be too high up and other details like that.

Here are two more:
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Revealing mistake: When Corporal Bin's group of men eventually arrive at Dunkirk, they speak to a soldier adding sandbags to a Vicker's gun position. Here (and later on in the film when it is shown firing) it has a blank-firing adaptor prominently fitted to the front. Additionally the belt of ammunition shown going through it is filled with blanks - no bullets project outside the other side to that of the actual cartridge cases.


Factual error: The Sergeant-Major of the artillery section Corporal Bins and his men are briefly attached to has two of his medal ribbons round the wrong way. He has up the Victory and British War Medal ribbons, when they should be worn BWM and then VM. A mistake an experienced senior NCO would not make.

And two more:

New this week Factual error: When the returned soldiers are on the train at the end of the film, they are on what appears to be a modern open-plan train carriage. In the 1940s it would have been a compartment carriage.


New this week Deliberate mistake: The me-109 have painted yellow fronts, this wasn't done by the Germans until after Dunkirk. Christopher Nolan has admitted doing this deliberately so the audience could tell the difference between the spitfire and the me-109 during the combat scenes.


The train compartment was obviously wrong - the one I did actually notice on reflection, as it would have been a "slam-door" type but these details don't detract from the narrative. For those ITK I appreciate they're irritations...like the Routemaster bus anomalies. 8)

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:41 pm ]
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Off to see it tomorrow night, will post my thoughts on it later.

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:35 am ]
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Great film, well worth watching. Forget the inaccuracies stated above, just sit and let yourself become one of the soldiers in the film and see how you might have reacted had you been involved in that scenario at Dunkirk and at sea. Grabs you straight off and keeps you focused. 9/10.

Author:  desiwulf [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:17 pm ]
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I never pay attention to inaccuracies, it`s the movies, it`s always going to be entertainment based rather than factual. Going this weekend after we spank the `boro.

Author:  SELWolf [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:04 pm ]
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Glad I haven't put you two off from going; it was never my intention to do so...and as I said, I did rather enjoy it.

Let us know your thoughts about it, Desi. :wink:

Author:  desiwulf [ Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:44 pm ]
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Having watched the film today, I agree with SEL nowhere near the hype. The historical inaccuracies didn`t bother me greatly but I agree with suig, it`s a 5/10 from me. Trying to cram in too many story lines made the whole film a bit disjointed for me. I think they scrimped on the extras too, I`ve seen more people on Blackpool beach. Oh, wasn`t impressed with the background music either, and as for slowing down Elgar`s "Nimrod", it didn`t work for me. There was something else that irritated me too but we don`t do spoilers do we so I`ll leave it.

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:27 pm ]
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Looks like only myself enjoyed and rated the film...c'est la vie.

Author:  desiwulf [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:37 pm ]
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gladbachwolf wrote:
Looks like only myself enjoyed and rated the film...c'est la vie.


au contraire glad, the box office would beg to differ.

Author:  SELWolf [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:34 pm ]
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gladbachwolf wrote:
Looks like only myself enjoyed and rated the film...c'est la vie.

I wouldn't want to throw cold water on it but like others do't think it lived up to the hype. :wink:

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:02 pm ]
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I ignore hype when watching a film, I just immerse myself in it and see what I feel when it has ended, how it moved me, did it get me thinking..??..did it leave me non plussed..??..was it worth losing two hours of my time..??..

Author:  Moscow Wolf [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:10 pm ]
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gladbachwolf wrote:
I ignore hype when watching a film, I just immerse myself in it and see what I feel when it has ended, how it moved me, did it get me thinking..??..did it leave me non plussed..??..was it worth losing two hours of my time..??..


Well? Weren't you running the NAAFI on the Beach. :wink:

Author:  desiwulf [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:52 pm ]
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Moscow Wolf wrote:
gladbachwolf wrote:
I ignore hype when watching a film, I just immerse myself in it and see what I feel when it has ended, how it moved me, did it get me thinking..??..did it leave me non plussed..??..was it worth losing two hours of my time..??..


Well? Weren't you running the NAAFI on the Beach. :wink:


Have you watched it Moscow? What did you think of it?

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:20 pm ]
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Moscow Wolf wrote:
gladbachwolf wrote:
I ignore hype when watching a film, I just immerse myself in it and see what I feel when it has ended, how it moved me, did it get me thinking..??..did it leave me non plussed..??..was it worth losing two hours of my time..??..


Well? Weren't you running the NAAFI on the Beach. :wink:



Yes, I was running the NAAFI mobile canteen up and down the beach...guilty as charged... 8) :lol:

Author:  Moscow Wolf [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:20 am ]
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desiwulf wrote:
Moscow Wolf wrote:
gladbachwolf wrote:
I ignore hype when watching a film, I just immerse myself in it and see what I feel when it has ended, how it moved me, did it get me thinking..??..did it leave me non plussed..??..was it worth losing two hours of my time..??..


Well? Weren't you running the NAAFI on the Beach. :wink:


Have you watched it Moscow? What did you think of it?


No Mate, I haven't viewed it yet as I can only find a 'cam version' so am waiting for the DVD version to become available.

Author:  desiwulf [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:41 pm ]
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Moscow Wolf wrote:
No Mate, I haven't viewed it yet as I can only find a 'cam version' so am waiting for the DVD version to become available.


Ar, let we know what you think when you do.

Author:  Moscow Wolf [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:37 pm ]
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desiwulf wrote:
Moscow Wolf wrote:
No Mate, I haven't viewed it yet as I can only find a 'cam version' so am waiting for the DVD version to become available.


Ar, let we know what you think when you do.


WOW, fookin mega intense, had me on the edge of my seat the whole film with a sense of FEAR. God only knows what they went through if a fookin film gives me the jitters and I have seen some shit in the real world, but nothing as intense as that close up. Very well done film and I have no fookin idea where the racist shit is coming from unless it is because we didn't allow the Frogs on our boats. :lol:

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:28 pm ]
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Glad you enjoyed it Moscow, I did too and just put myself in the shoes of that guy running for his life in the first clip..I became that guy and it totally engrossed me all the way through.

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