Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ

Board index » GENERAL CHAT » General sport




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 37 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Share On:

Author Message
 Post subject: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:48 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:19 pm
Posts: 6753
I'm not a big rugby fan, but I watch England and this Eddie Jones character fascinates me..
England won, 15 unbeaten now, despite being second best for most of the game.

How to play under pressure and not panic..well done, just.

_________________
In this world, you only, have one life - and I gave mine to Wolves.


Top 
 Profile  
 
Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Twitter
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:26 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:38 am
Posts: 15337
Location: Moved
Scotland were magnificent, but England know how to win ugly......

_________________
Dyslexics are teople poo


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:45 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:19 pm
Posts: 6753
Beautifully ugly

_________________
In this world, you only, have one life - and I gave mine to Wolves.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:51 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
Eddie Jones has given England what Wolves need. The ability to win even when it's not going too well. Bringing on Haskell up front as they were tiring gave us that extra momentum to win some forward play and score a try.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:51 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
When you know you have more in the locker than your opposition it gives you the belief that if you stick to your game plan in general you will come through as winners.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:24 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:59 pm
Posts: 18851
Location: WV4 and WL4
I watched an England v France documentary, the other week, and I didn't realise how intense the rivalry was, genuine dislike of each other. This only thawed a bit, at the World cup in South Africa, when they spent some social time with each other. They're a funny breed, the French, but then so are we.

_________________
Thank you very much for Stevie Bull. Thank you very much, thank you very, very, very much.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:09 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
For England to do well they will have to import some flair into the back line.

Never had much flair England through the decades and thats the key downfall.

Not a very imaginative race.

A mate of mine reckons Johnny Wilkinson looks on Rugby how I look on football, takes all sorts.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:40 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:19 pm
Posts: 6753
Do England know or just believe they have enough to beat these 5?

_________________
In this world, you only, have one life - and I gave mine to Wolves.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:23 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
CANNOCK WOLF wrote:
Do England know or just believe they have enough to beat these 5?


What I believe is that England and New Zealand always have enough to be within one score of the opposition by the sixty minute mark.

From that point those nations England/New Zealand have by far the stronger benches so can dominate the final quarter of the game. Fresh energy.
I think the opponents know it and that piles on the pressure during the closing stages of their games.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:58 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
England thrash Scotland, Wales beat Ireland.

England equal The All Blacks record of games won in a streak.

Tell you what my monies on Ireland against England, should be a good price.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:07 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
It's in Dublin and yes, Ireland will be up for it and definitely have a chance but I watched England Scotland "as live" when I got back from the match yesterday and there is lots of quality in the England team. The partnership between Ford and Farrell is massive and the speed and trickery of Joseph yesterday was immense. When you add to that the strength in the pack, Lawes, Launchbury etc. are strong and tireless, Itoje has a special spark and Billy Vinupola if fully fit is a battering ram with no little skill, I will not be backing against England.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:19 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:38 am
Posts: 15337
Location: Moved
Left back wrote:
It's in Dublin and yes, Ireland will be up for it and definitely have a chance but I watched England Scotland "as live" when I got back from the match yesterday and there is lots of quality in the England team. The partnership between Ford and Farrell is massive and the speed and trickery of Joseph yesterday was immense. When you add to that the strength in the pack, Lawes, Launchbury etc. are strong and tireless, Itoje has a special spark and Billy Vinupola if fully fit is a battering ram with no little skill, I will not be backing against England.


If only Eddie Jones could be persuaded by Fosun to change code. The crowd in Dublin are Ireland's sixteenth man. Eddie Jones is ours.

We will win, as Jones has instilled patience in the side. Ireland on a wave of national hysteria may well score first, but the English lads know a test is a marathon not a sprint, and Jone's drills and use of the bench, will see his team over the line.

Come on Eddie. You know you want to try football and would love Wolverhampton ?

_________________
Dyslexics are teople poo


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:11 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:59 pm
Posts: 18851
Location: WV4 and WL4
suiging wrote:
Left back wrote:
It's in Dublin and yes, Ireland will be up for it and definitely have a chance but I watched England Scotland "as live" when I got back from the match yesterday and there is lots of quality in the England team. The partnership between Ford and Farrell is massive and the speed and trickery of Joseph yesterday was immense. When you add to that the strength in the pack, Lawes, Launchbury etc. are strong and tireless, Itoje has a special spark and Billy Vinupola if fully fit is a battering ram with no little skill, I will not be backing against England.


If only Eddie Jones could be persuaded by Fosun to change code. The crowd in Dublin are Ireland's sixteenth man. Eddie Jones is ours.

We will win, as Jones has instilled patience in the side. Ireland on a wave of national hysteria may well score first, but the English lads know a test is a marathon not a sprint, and Jone's drills and use of the bench, will see his team over the line.

Come on Eddie. You know you want to try football and would love Wolverhampton ?


If we can't tempt Eddie, let's bring in Sir Clive!

_________________
Thank you very much for Stevie Bull. Thank you very much, thank you very, very, very much.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:33 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
It would be interesting to see how well they could do in Association Football as opposed to Rugby football. They are clearly both good managers, have tactical brains, and are not afraid to make hard decisions. I wonder how much their obvious transferrable skills would overcome their lack of experience in a new sport.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:25 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:28 pm
Posts: 11190
Embers wrote:
suiging wrote:
Left back wrote:
It's in Dublin and yes, Ireland will be up for it and definitely have a chance but I watched England Scotland "as live" when I got back from the match yesterday and there is lots of quality in the England team. The partnership between Ford and Farrell is massive and the speed and trickery of Joseph yesterday was immense. When you add to that the strength in the pack, Lawes, Launchbury etc. are strong and tireless, Itoje has a special spark and Billy Vinupola if fully fit is a battering ram with no little skill, I will not be backing against England.


If only Eddie Jones could be persuaded by Fosun to change code. The crowd in Dublin are Ireland's sixteenth man. Eddie Jones is ours.

We will win, as Jones has instilled patience in the side. Ireland on a wave of national hysteria may well score first, but the English lads know a test is a marathon not a sprint, and Jone's drills and use of the bench, will see his team over the line.

Come on Eddie. You know you want to try football and would love Wolverhampton ?


If we can't tempt Eddie, let's bring in Sir Clive!


Southampton tried that. They got relegated.

_________________
Wolves' Head of Football Development & Recruitment Kevin Thelwell added: "Grant Holt has been at a lot of clubs and there is a reason for that - he is a very good player."


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:33 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
shropswolf wrote:
Southampton tried that. They got relegated.


I'd forgotten about that but wasn't he working as some sort of adviser to Harry Redknapp? That was never going to work.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:36 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:38 am
Posts: 15337
Location: Moved
Left back wrote:
shropswolf wrote:
Southampton tried that. They got relegated.


I'd forgotten about that but wasn't he working as some sort of adviser to Harry Redknapp? That was never going to work.


English language coach ?

_________________
Dyslexics are teople poo


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:12 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
suiging wrote:
Left back wrote:
shropswolf wrote:
Southampton tried that. They got relegated.


I'd forgotten about that but wasn't he working as some sort of adviser to Harry Redknapp? That was never going to work.


English language coach ?


I fink it might a been me san.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:25 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:59 pm
Posts: 18851
Location: WV4 and WL4
Fack orf, you cants!!!

_________________
Thank you very much for Stevie Bull. Thank you very much, thank you very, very, very much.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:45 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:19 pm
Posts: 6753
England thrash the form side after mid firing in the tournament??

_________________
In this world, you only, have one life - and I gave mine to Wolves.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:42 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
I always think if you go to Ireland with an expansive game plan your likely to come unstuck.

Expect Eddie Jones to order his half backs to kick for position rather than have them move the ball through the centres.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:51 pm 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:19 pm
Posts: 6753
Party over

_________________
In this world, you only, have one life - and I gave mine to Wolves.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:52 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
Congratulations Ireland - and KK. It was always a possibility but I thought England might have enough momentum after last week. Ireland locked us out.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:33 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
Home advantage is massive in Rugby against any side be that against England on a roll or anyone the Irish are capable of winning 4 or 5 minimum out of ten games.
I thought England did well against the Irish intensity and the loss could do them good long term.
Just a little short in terms of flair and fluency in the back division.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:14 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager

Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:38 am
Posts: 15337
Location: Moved
The heavy rain in Dublin did not come across that well on the TV.

Fair play to the Paddy Whacks, they played the conditions better than England. The new more expansive England couldn't seem to find the old, hard possession game when they needed it most.

As Eddie said, in some respects down to him and team selection after the weather forecast. The Irish simply superb in the loose and their semi-legal choke tackles worked a dream. Good game to learn from for the future.

_________________
Dyslexics are teople poo


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:45 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
knocker knowles wrote:
Just a little short in terms of flair and fluency in the back division.


I don't think England are short in that area, they just never got enough ball yesterday because the Irish closed us down so well.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:58 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
Left back wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Just a little short in terms of flair and fluency in the back division.


I don't think England are short in that area, they just never got enough ball yesterday because the Irish closed us down so well.


I await the Lions test selection with interest, I think with any English inclusions in the backs the Lions lose the big games.

I just dont see a David Duckham, Clive Woodward or a Jeremy Guscott within their ranks though I do like Elliot Daly.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:09 am 
Offline
Wolves Reserve
Wolves Reserve

Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:30 pm
Posts: 747
Location: telford
Farrell will start at 12.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:08 am 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:09 pm
Posts: 20461
Location: Four Oaks
knocker knowles wrote:
I await the Lions test selection with interest, I think with any English inclusions in the backs the Lions lose the big games.

I just dont see a David Duckham, Clive Woodward or a Jeremy Guscott within their ranks though I do like Elliot Daly.


I'm glad you recognise the potential of Daly. I do think you should look a bit more closely at the ability of Farrell who I (and many of the pundits - including Woodward) think is top class and I would say at least as good as the 3 you mention were. I expect him to be included in the Lions tests.

_________________
The next level awaits - Euros now


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Six nations
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:29 am 
Offline
Manager
Manager
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:19 am
Posts: 22669
Location: Cannock.
Left back wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
I await the Lions test selection with interest, I think with any English inclusions in the backs the Lions lose the big games.

I just dont see a David Duckham, Clive Woodward or a Jeremy Guscott within their ranks though I do like Elliot Daly.


I'm glad you recognise the potential of Daly. I do think you should look a bit more closely at the ability of Farrell who I (and many of the pundits - including Woodward) think is top class and I would say at least as good as the 3 you mention were. I expect him to be included in the Lions tests.


I remember other home nations producing quality outside halfs in twos who then showed great ability in the centre.
Ireland with Campbell and Ward, Wales with John and Bennett so lets wait and see with Farrell, maybe he has more to his game than I have seen.

_________________
he first twenty years of life contain the whole of experience. The rest is observation. Graham Greene

If team culture is weak losing divides the team. If team culture is strong, losing creates the hunger to win again. Either way culture rules.


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 37 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Board index » GENERAL CHAT » General sport


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

The Wolf will always be free to its members, but if you feel you would like to contribute towards the running costs, than please feel free to donate.

 

 

Disclaimer : This forum is for the general discussion/topic of Wolverhampton Wanderers. What is said within the forum is personal opinions, and The Wolf will not be held responsible. Your ip is logged for security reasons. The forum is viewable by the public and any topics you disclose/discuss can be viewed by the public. Some topics on this forum may only be suitable for those aged 18+.