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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:39 pm 
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We can come back to this when the Lions tour takes place.

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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:48 am 
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I don't watch as much six nations as I did years ago but have always followed New Zealand rugby because of its values and its national culture.
Sid Going, Sean Fitzpatrick and Colin Meads my favourite all time players.

So views on the Lions squad will be information thankfully received by me.

I love Lions tours because of what can be produced by a coach over the course of a tour, though tours are shorter now.
How the coach reevaluates his players and finds out his best partnerships and combinations, and what works best against a formidable home team.

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I see we lost the first test with 4 English Backs in the side so you can claim your prediction was correct Knocker. (Although I rather think that we would have lost to such class whoever was in the side myself). Farrell had a poor game but retains his place this week and it is Ben T'eo who has to give way to Sexton. That still leaves 3 English backs though - who should be in instead of them?

I actually think that Billy Vinupola was the big miss from last week's team and will be again. Good to see that Itoje is in this week too. I still think that the Lions only have a puncher's chance of winning against the All Blacks but I reckon the there are several good England players amongst them.

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Warren Gatland is a Kiwi.

That says it all......

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I thought the Lions were fortunate in the respect that with an extra man they didn't have the discipline to wait for things to happen.

Instead they wanted immediate second half results, points on the score board. not going to happen, the All Blacks are far to good at killing the ball.

So without the required patience they lost composure and the ability to let their game flow.

From that the All Blacks had opportunities to close out the game with the boot.

Yet a couple of moments of individual quality happened for the Lions and they take the series to a decider.

Its this lack of patience in British sportsmen across all sports that continues to effect performance.

Under Jacket, under Lambert, with any Wolves crowd you see and feel this frenzy to get it forward, often without flow or thought.

Its a curse of the British sporting classes.

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knocker knowles wrote:
I thought the Lions were fortunate in the respect that with an extra man they didn't have the discipline to wait for things to happen.

Instead they wanted immediate second half results, points on the score board. not going to happen, the All Blacks are far to good at killing the ball.

So without the required patience they lost composure and the ability to let their game flow.

From that the All Blacks had opportunities to close out the game with the boot.

Yet a couple of moments of individual quality happened for the Lions and they take the series to a decider.

Its this lack of patience in British sportsmen across all sports that continues to effect performance.

Under Jacket, under Lambert, with any Wolves crowd you see and feel this frenzy to get it forward, often without flow or thought.

Its a curse of the British sporting classes.


I think you completely under sell the Lions as a team with that. They were both team built tries, in particular the first one which involved moves right and left across the field with some good rucking in between. This vindicated Gatland's decision to use creative players both at 10 and 12 rather than a more defensive option. Anxiety was a bit of a problem at times against top quality players which led to some indiscipline but I don't agree that it was impatience, they were not trying to play the ball out recklessly from their own half. I think Mako will be lucky to keep his place next week.

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knocker knowles wrote:
I thought the Lions were fortunate in the respect that with an extra man they didn't have the discipline to wait for things to happen.

Instead they wanted immediate second half results, points on the score board. not going to happen, the All Blacks are far to good at killing the ball.

So without the required patience they lost composure and the ability to let their game flow.

From that the All Blacks had opportunities to close out the game with the boot.

Yet a couple of moments of individual quality happened for the Lions and they take the series to a decider.

Its this lack of patience in British sportsmen across all sports that continues to effect performance.

Under Jacket, under Lambert, with any Wolves crowd you see and feel this frenzy to get it forward, often without flow or thought.

Its a curse of the British sporting classes.


I think you completely under sell the Lions as a team with that. They were both team built tries, in particular the first one which involved moves right and left across the field with some good rucking in between. This vindicated Gatland's decision to use creative players both at 10 and 12 rather than a more defensive option. Anxiety was a bit of a problem at times against top quality players which led to some indiscipline but I don't agree that it was impatience, they were not trying to play the ball out recklessly from their own half. I think Mako will be lucky to keep his place next week.


Fair comment, I thought at centre the Lions were wrong not to go into the game without a running line breaker.

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Big test for England today, I really like the make up of this South African side.

Twelve months before the World Cup the southern hemisphere are starting to find and develop some world class talents.

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