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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
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I do worry about the image of Corbyn because he tries to sell a kinder, caring form of politics but I see things like anti semitic behaviour being accepted and Momentum (Militant tendency?) apparently using bullying tactics to put down any detractors from within and the whole thing reeks of intolerance. If Corbyn doesn't agree with these behaviours then he is not being strong enough to address them and if he does he is not practicing what he preaches.

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I see that the tenner was for some sort of precept for the responsibilities to be covered by the new Regional Mayor's office. (Bloody hell, remember the old West Midlands County Council, an extra tier of bureaucracy for things). Anyway I notice that Andy Burnham (Labour) wants to do much the same in Manchester at £21 per council tax payer).

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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
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As the redistribution of wealth is a big marxist thing, and as the poorest in society don't pay council tax, I would have thought you would ave been in favour of a mild redistribution Knocker ?


I'm all in favour for transparency and accountability from all politicians, whatever the level.

I would have thought before this office was created, the ones who created the office should have outlined how it would be funded.
Was it?
I didn't read about funding until now.

So Mr Andy Street Tory Mayor of the West Midlands you can shove your office and yourself up your own orifice. Cheeky runt.

Less bureaucracy required.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/adams-backs-‘outstanding’-corbyn-for-pm

Even more reasons to dislike Jezza through no fault of his own though.

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/adams-backs-‘outstanding’-corbyn-for-pm

Even more reasons to dislike Jezza through no fault of his own though.


The murdering barstewerd Adams praises Corbyn for his dialogue with the terrorists throughout the years. As a backbench nobody, his position to befriend the scum was what exactly ?

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/adams-backs-‘outstanding’-corbyn-for-pm

Even more reasons to dislike Jezza through no fault of his own though.


The murdering barstewerd Adams praises Corbyn for his dialogue with the terrorists throughout the years. As a backbench nobody, his position to befriend the scum was what exactly ?


Hypocrisy that people wish others didn't speak or listen to Adams but wish to shout his views from the rooftops for all to hear.

Without a Customs union this government is creating a powder keg situation in Ireland. That should occupy your thoughts slightly more.

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What a surprise. The heads of Oxfam are all well paid champagne socialists and friends of Jeremy. Well actually it's no surprise.

What is, is Corbyn's Momentum playing with people's lives and blocking inner city London developments to keep the housing shortage an on going political weapon.

But then again, that's no surprise either.

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While we're on charities the ex Danish, Socialist PM who married into the incredibly wealthy Kinnock Dynasty is moaning she only gets 200K from Save The Children. It appears David Miliband getting a cool half a million from the International Rescue Committee is striking a nerve.

Will Jezza step in to demand equality in the charity fleecing socialist game ?

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While we're on charities the ex Danish, Socialist PM who married into the incredibly wealthy Kinnock Dynasty is moaning she only gets 200K from Save The Children. It appears David Miliband getting a cool half a million from the International Rescue Committee is striking a nerve.

Will Jezza step in to demand equality in the charity fleecing socialist game ?


Yes Jeremy has spoken of better transparency regards the breakdown of monies going to good causes because of this abuse at the top.
Better regulation required.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
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Interesting.

I watched the newspaper reviews waiting for someone to mention Jezza"s "file" as a source with the Czech security service. Now I know it was the Sun, but as the allegations were very specific (with pictures) I thought it may have been mentioned somewhere ? Surely Jezza's legal team would have leapt to his defence if it wasn't true ?

What's more telling is the German Government's refusal to release the Tramp's SSD ( Stasi) file. They have released other files on well known people, it's in their constitution to do so, but they refuse to release Jezza's ?

How can a National Leader be elected with the rather obvious threat of "Blackmail" over his head ? The Stasi ( as Moscow will attest ) were rather active in the UK back in the day, The funded the so called "Peace" protests at Greenham Common and controlled CND from within. What was Jezza up to with them ? The German's won't tell us.

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Interesting.

I watched the newspaper reviews waiting for someone to mention Jezza"s "file" as a source with the Czech security service. Now I know it was the Sun, but as the allegations were very specific (with pictures) I thought it may have been mentioned somewhere ? Surely Jezza's legal team would have leapt to his defence if it wasn't true ?

What's more telling is the German Government's refusal to release the Tramp's SSD ( Stasi) file. They have released other files on well known people, it's in their constitution to do so, but they refuse to release Jezza's ?

How can a National Leader be elected with the rather obvious threat of "Blackmail" over his head ? The Stasi ( as Moscow will attest ) were rather active in the UK back in the day, The funded the so called "Peace" protests at Greenham Common and controlled CND from within. What was Jezza up to with them ? The German's won't tell us.


Only the person themselves can request their own Stasi file.

The general release of some files has always been very controversial and the German Government would be under the heavy accusation of mixing into other countries' policies by releasing the files of the main opposition leader.

You would probably need a "neutral" body like the British Museum making a direct request to all material involving British politicians to be sent to them purely for historical research purposes.

A lot of the material has not yet been sifted through in any case as the extent is so huge or was ruined as after the Wall fell, the crowds ransacked a lot of East German government buildings.

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Interesting.

I watched the newspaper reviews waiting for someone to mention Jezza"s "file" as a source with the Czech security service. Now I know it was the Sun, but as the allegations were very specific (with pictures) I thought it may have been mentioned somewhere ? Surely Jezza's legal team would have leapt to his defence if it wasn't true ?

What's more telling is the German Government's refusal to release the Tramp's SSD ( Stasi) file. They have released other files on well known people, it's in their constitution to do so, but they refuse to release Jezza's ?

How can a National Leader be elected with the rather obvious threat of "Blackmail" over his head ? The Stasi ( as Moscow will attest ) were rather active in the UK back in the day, The funded the so called "Peace" protests at Greenham Common and controlled CND from within. What was Jezza up to with them ? The German's won't tell us.


Only the person themselves can request their own Stasi file.

The general release of some files has always been very controversial and the German Government would be under the heavy accusation of mixing into other countries' policies by releasing the files of the main opposition leader.

You would probably need a "neutral" body like the British Museum making a direct request to all material involving British politicians to be sent to them purely for historical research purposes.

A lot of the material has not yet been sifted through in any case as the extent is so huge or was ruined as after the Wall fell, the crowds ransacked a lot of East German government buildings.


Since 2015 the files are open for most to general scrutiny. Individual's only before this date. Not so Corbyn's which remain sraled

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5395897/Williamson-accuses-Corbyn-having-betrayed-Britain.html


Yes. It seems the ball is rolling. Not so with the BBC. As yet.....

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I would expect Jezza's team to come out swinging. They will be demanding apologies for the Czech defamation and openly publishing his STASI files....

Well......

Maybe

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I would expect Jezza's team to come out swinging. They will be demanding apologies for the Czech defamation and openly publishing his STASI files....

Well......

Maybe



Not really, its just a bit sad that all the Tories have is the ability to switch the agenda from their own failed policies onto smear campaigns.

Its unfortunate that a fair number of voters swallow this cobblers and let it influence their thinking.

Meanwhile the grown ups, the Labour party have real issues to debate.

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Meanwhile the grown ups, the Labour party have real issues to debate.


You really should be doing stand up.

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Not sure the Czech Communist spy is a Tory ?

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You know the right wing press are worried when they have to resort to lies and slander to try and smear someone.

It just shows they really believe he might be the next PM. Love it.

It's worth noting, as part of the Privy council, Corbyn passed an extremely thorough security check by the security services.


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You know the right wing press are worried when they have to resort to lies and slander to try and smear someone.

It just shows they really believe he might be the next PM. Love it.

It's worth noting, as part of the Privy council, Corbyn passed an extremely thorough security check by the security services.


Sir Richard Dearlove would beg to differ.

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You know the right wing press are worried when they have to resort to lies and slander to try and smear someone.

It just shows they really believe he might be the next PM. Love it.

It's worth noting, as part of the Privy council, Corbyn passed an extremely thorough security check by the security services.


Couple of points here.

If there was no basis in these allegations, and they as a collective are lies, where's the lawsuit ? Where's the press conference from the "slandered few" shouting "false news" from the rafters ? Where's the damnation of such lies ( with proof of innocence ) in the left wing media ?

The UK security services are pretty good at keeping their stuff out of the public eye. However, in an attempt to illustrate The Tramp's so called passing of vetting, do you think Trump has passed the FBI's highest form of vetting to hold public office ? Do you think he is given unfettered access to all the latest investigations into Russian espionage in is own country ?

If you do, you probably believe Corbyn can pass UK's strict vetting regime. How would you suggest as leader of Her Majesty's Opposition, Corbyn could be prevented from being a member of the Privy Council, membership a given political sop for his post ? He could be, and I'm sure he is, kept away from many documents any previous holder of such high office would/could have seen. It's just not leaked to The Guardian or The Big Issue.

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As an aside, I have just read about the first threat of legal action.

Absolutely hilarious. Corbyn's legal team have threatened a Conservative MP over a tweet that Corbyn sold secrets to the Soviets.

The MP in question was a fool. To tweet something which he had no evidence to support( himself) , just allows smoke and mirrors to be thrown up to hide the solid FACTS printed with illustrations, about the relationships of Corbyn and friends with self-confessed spies.

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You know the right wing press are worried when they have to resort to lies and slander to try and smear someone.

It just shows they really believe he might be the next PM. Love it.

It's worth noting, as part of the Privy council, Corbyn passed an extremely thorough security check by the security services.


They really are a shower of shit the right wing press then Tories who grab hold of a non story.

All because they fear losing seats in local elections.

This type of bollocks leads us down to the breakdown and loss of democracy, childish pricks.

A warning to Tory MPs and the Tory gutter press

Tory MP Ben Bradley has deleted his libellous tweet accusing Jeremy Corbyn of selling Britain’s secrets to a Czech spy. Mr Corbyn’s lawyers are also watching out for other fake and libellous claims

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SpaceMonkey wrote:
You know the right wing press are worried when they have to resort to lies and slander to try and smear someone.

It just shows they really believe he might be the next PM. Love it.

It's worth noting, as part of the Privy council, Corbyn passed an extremely thorough security check by the security services.


They really are a shower of shit the right wing press then Tories who grab hold of a non story.

All because they fear losing seats in local elections.

This type of bollocks leads us down to the breakdown and loss of democracy, childish pricks.

A warning to Tory MPs and the Tory gutter press

Tory MP Ben Bradley has deleted his libellous tweet accusing Jeremy Corbyn of selling Britain’s secrets to a Czech spy. Mr Corbyn’s lawyers are also watching out for other fake and libellous claims


Which claims would they be watching for Knocker ?

They aren't doing a good job of it as the evidence has been printed for them to read. Perhaps they are illiterate like the rest of his crew.

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You do make a very valid point Knocker, even if you didn't mean too.

Corbyn's lawyers are set to pounce on anything they can that is untrue. Hence the rather expansive list of printed allegations which is going unchallenged, tells it's own story......don't you think ?

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You do make a very valid point Knocker, even if you didn't mean too.

Corbyn's lawyers are set to pounce on anything they can that is untrue. Hence the rather expansive list of printed allegations which is going unchallenged, tells it's own story......don't you think ?


Not really.

This allegation is so clearly untrue. There's no evidence whatsoever, the fact you are having to bring up the point that Corbyn isn't suing people left, right and centre as the only proof you have rather shows that really.

You willingly parrot it on places like this forum without any sort of thought, purely because it fits your own idea of what you think Corbyn is.

The fact that the Daily Mail have run this story as their headline for 4 of the last 5 days is also shocking. But not surprising, as it seems to be working on certain people.

Look at what the Daily Mail did on the run up to the last election.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... for-terror

Pathetic. If this is how the right wants to win rather than arguing the actual points then is it any wonder people mock them for what they are?

Trying to paint him as a terrorist sympathiser didn't work. This ridiculous lie that he's a traitor and spy won't work. Where will you credulous lot go next Suiging?


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You do make a very valid point Knocker, even if you didn't mean too.

Corbyn's lawyers are set to pounce on anything they can that is untrue. Hence the rather expansive list of printed allegations which is going unchallenged, tells it's own story......don't you think ?


Not really.

This allegation is so clearly untrue. There's no evidence whatsoever, the fact you are having to bring up the point that Corbyn isn't suing people left, right and centre as the only proof you have rather shows that really.

You willingly parrot it on places like this forum without any sort of thought, purely because it fits your own idea of what you think Corbyn is.

The fact that the Daily Mail have run this story as their headline for 4 of the last 5 days is also shocking. But not surprising, as it seems to be working on certain people.

Look at what the Daily Mail did on the run up to the last election.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... for-terror

Pathetic. If this is how the right wants to win rather than arguing the actual points then is it any wonder people mock them for what they are?

Trying to paint him as a terrorist sympathiser didn't work. This ridiculous lie that he's a traitor and spy won't work. Where will you credulous lot go next Suiging?


You clearly like to avoid the obvious. Corbyn by any definition is a terrorist sympathiser. What else would you call his support for the IRA and Hezbollah to name just two.

Rather than blow hot air., explain Corbyns relationships with such scum to we the intellectually inferior. You never know, you may gain a convert.

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Enough's enough. If you want poverty, three day weeks, wildcat strikes and the country ruled by hidden cliques, you're welcome.

Read "Animal Farm" and decide which pig you want to be.

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Enough's enough. If you want poverty, three day weeks, wildcat strikes and the country ruled by hidden cliques, you're welcome.

Read "Animal Farm" and decide which pig you want to be.


None of that has anything to do with the fact you believe and repeat such obvious lies about Corbyn. If you do that then don't get annoyed when you're picked up on it.

Lying to discredit people is the ultimate act of desperation.

https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... ch-agency/

Even the Czech media/government have confirmed what we already know. A smear made up to discredit Corbyn and move forward the political aims of the owners of the Mail and Sun. If you want to be a willing party to that, be my guest.


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Enough's enough. If you want poverty, three day weeks, wildcat strikes and the country ruled by hidden cliques, you're welcome.

Read "Animal Farm" and decide which pig you want to be.


None of that has anything to do with the fact you believe and repeat such obvious lies about Corbyn. If you do that then don't get annoyed when you're picked up on it.

Lying to discredit people is the ultimate act of desperation.

https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... ch-agency/

Even the Czech media/government have confirmed what we already know. A smear made up to discredit Corbyn and move forward the political aims of the owners of the Mail and Sun. If you want to be a willing party to that, be my guest.


Never annoyed by discussion and opposite views, tis what makes us a democracy. You will note Corbyn's latest reaction is to threaten just that.

Time will tell the true nature of comrade Corbyn. It is hard to go back to his achievements in power as he has none, hence the right wing media go to his track record with terrorists and communists. He gives the likes of you and KK hope with his dream team of himself at the helm ( well figurehead ) backed up by Mc D, Abbott and Thornbury. God help you if your dreams come true. Unless of course, like the weak willed throughout history, you intend to get your kicks as a commissar or concentration camp guard. Plenty of job vacancies there in any Marxist regime .

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