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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:58 pm 
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I watched Top Gear on Sunday, one of the biggest franchised sellers in BBC history. I am a staunch believer in the BBC and applaud its provenance and outstanding commitment to quality programming for all and its enduring attempts to be non political or unbiased.
The presenters went to Brunei, the country of Brunei has its own views and laws on many things, the most recent being introducing the death penalty for indulging in gay sex amongst other things.

The programme chose to publicly ignore anything that happened there, other than to appease the burgeoning and powerful Pride agenda by a tacit and childish re-painting of the cars used in the show in the symbolic rainbow colours of the Pride movement, a deliberate show of political defiance on behalf of, and by the BBC, WRONG!

A persons sexual preference should never result in state persecution full stop, Christ the clocks creak back 100 years, Oscar Wilde, Alan Turing etc etc, but the BBC should remain above all that and leave their paying viewers to reach their own conclusions on world matters. They promote homosexuality but warn you of impending flashing images FFS??

I dislike anyone pushing an agenda on me, I prefer to indulge myself in my own intellect and judgement innit.

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gladbachwolf wrote:
Whilst I see and also understand some of the views on here about "well off pensioners" nowadays compared to those of yesteryear, I am an OAP and also saved diligently over some years to enable myself to live comfortably in later life rather than just survive on the State Pension, which is the lowest in Europe and has for many years been a disgrace in comparison to most other EU countries. I lived and worked in Germany for 27 years and hardly ever saw a poor pensioner over there, they paid in a fair share but got out a lot more long term. Therefore I count these "benefits" such as free bus pass, railcards, over 75's free TV licence as things that we were given as an aid to later life budgeting and the low rate of pension made these things a boost to a bad state pension and to make life more bearable. I do not feel guilty about being well off ( I am not by the way, I class myself as comfortable) and taking these "benefits", if you're not getting a good deal pension wise from the State, then any add-ons, so to speak are highly welcome.

The State Pension will probably get phased out gradually by a Government in the future and we will all then be expected to plan ahead many years in advance to cater for ourselves in later life. That will also mean the loss of bus passes etc, so I suppose that we should brace ourselves for these probable happenings and those of a younger age at present, more certainly so. The BBC licence fee should be scrapped and something else of a lower rate be introduced as a means of contribution towards watching TV. There are no ideal answers but something will change in the next decade I feel.


A couple of years ago a friend of mine stated he thought the license fee should be scrapped altogether as he thought the BBC were biased and why should he pay if he didn't like the programs or even watch the channels.
I now agree with him -how can the solution to the gender pay gap be to increase the female wage to that of the males, when the solution was the other way round.
If the presenters feel they can get more money elsewhere let em go and do so.
Gary Lineker is the prime example of all thats wrong at the BBC ..abuses his well paid position and also gets money from BT (or is is Sky I dont really know or care tbh) ..what's that all about.

Make the BBC independent & stand on its own two feet - for too long have they sponged off the License Fee to fund their over paid 'stars'.


I think when it comes to pay the BBC should be run like Ajax the football club.

Give young talent every opportunity possible and allow them to move on to other gigs as they wish.
Then promoting fresh talent.
There must be thousands of people awaiting an opportunity.

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davejonesears wrote:
gladbachwolf wrote:
Whilst I see and also understand some of the views on here about "well off pensioners" nowadays compared to those of yesteryear, I am an OAP and also saved diligently over some years to enable myself to live comfortably in later life rather than just survive on the State Pension, which is the lowest in Europe and has for many years been a disgrace in comparison to most other EU countries. I lived and worked in Germany for 27 years and hardly ever saw a poor pensioner over there, they paid in a fair share but got out a lot more long term. Therefore I count these "benefits" such as free bus pass, railcards, over 75's free TV licence as things that we were given as an aid to later life budgeting and the low rate of pension made these things a boost to a bad state pension and to make life more bearable. I do not feel guilty about being well off ( I am not by the way, I class myself as comfortable) and taking these "benefits", if you're not getting a good deal pension wise from the State, then any add-ons, so to speak are highly welcome.

The State Pension will probably get phased out gradually by a Government in the future and we will all then be expected to plan ahead many years in advance to cater for ourselves in later life. That will also mean the loss of bus passes etc, so I suppose that we should brace ourselves for these probable happenings and those of a younger age at present, more certainly so. The BBC licence fee should be scrapped and something else of a lower rate be introduced as a means of contribution towards watching TV. There are no ideal answers but something will change in the next decade I feel.


A couple of years ago a friend of mine stated he thought the license fee should be scrapped altogether as he thought the BBC were biased and why should he pay if he didn't like the programs or even watch the channels.
I now agree with him -how can the solution to the gender pay gap be to increase the female wage to that of the males, when the solution was the other way round.
If the presenters feel they can get more money elsewhere let em go and do so.
Gary Lineker is the prime example of all thats wrong at the BBC ..abuses his well paid position and also gets money from BT (or is is Sky I dont really know or care tbh) ..what's that all about.

Make the BBC independent & stand on its own two feet - for too long have they sponged off the License Fee to fund their over paid 'stars'.


I think when it comes to pay the BBC should be run like Ajax the football club.

Give young talent every opportunity possible and allow them to move on to other gigs as they wish.
Then promoting fresh talent.
There must be thousands of people awaiting an opportunity.


But the BBC admit that their viewing public are in the majority, over the age of sixty five. How do they survive if they alienate their viewers. Who looks after the raging community, the community that actually watches the bloody telly ?

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]Whilst I see and also understand some of the views on here about "well off pensioners" nowadays compared to those of yesteryear, I am an OAP and also saved diligently over some years to enable myself to live comfortably in later life rather than just survive on the State Pension, which is the lowest in Europe and has for many years been a disgrace in comparison to most other EU countries. I lived and worked in Germany for 27 years and hardly ever saw a poor pensioner over there, they paid in a fair share but got out a lot more long term. Therefore I count these "benefits" such as free bus pass, railcards, over 75's free TV licence as things that we were given as an aid to later life budgeting and the low rate of pension made these things a boost to a bad state pension and to make life more bearable. I do not feel guilty about being well off ( I am not by the way, I class myself as comfortable) and taking these "benefits", if you're not getting a good deal pension wise from the State, then any add-ons, so to speak are highly welcome.

The State Pension will probably get phased out gradually by a Government in the future and we will all then be expected to plan ahead many years in advance to cater for ourselves in later life. That will also mean the loss of bus passes etc, so I suppose that we should brace ourselves for these probable happenings and those of a younger age at present, more certainly so. The BBC licence fee should be scrapped and something else of a lower rate be introduced as a means of contribution towards watching TV. There are no ideal answers but something will change in the next decade I feel.[/quote]

A couple of years ago a friend of mine stated he thought the license fee should be scrapped altogether as he thought the BBC were biased and why should he pay if he didn't like the programs or even watch the channels.
I now agree with him -how can the solution to the gender pay gap be to increase the female wage to that of the males, when the solution was the other way round.
If the presenters feel they can get more money elsewhere let em go and do so.
Gary Lineker is the prime example of all thats wrong at the BBC ..abuses his well paid position and also gets money from BT (or is is Sky I dont really know or care tbh) ..what's that all about.

Make the BBC independent & stand on its own two feet - for too long have they sponged off the License Fee to fund their over paid 'stars'.[/quote]

I think when it comes to pay the BBC should be run like Ajax the football club.

Give young talent every opportunity possible and allow them to move on to other gigs as they wish.
Then promoting fresh talent.
There must be thousands of people awaiting an opportunity.[/quote]

But the BBC admit that their viewing public are in the majority, over the age of sixty five. How do they survive if they alienate their viewers. Who looks after the raging community, the community that actually watches the bloody telly ?[/quote]

Ask the public, do you want a cap on what we pay?

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:26 pm 
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knocker knowles wrote:
]Whilst I see and also understand some of the views on here about "well off pensioners" nowadays compared to those of yesteryear, I am an OAP and also saved diligently over some years to enable myself to live comfortably in later life rather than just survive on the State Pension, which is the lowest in Europe and has for many years been a disgrace in comparison to most other EU countries. I lived and worked in Germany for 27 years and hardly ever saw a poor pensioner over there, they paid in a fair share but got out a lot more long term. Therefore I count these "benefits" such as free bus pass, railcards, over 75's free TV licence as things that we were given as an aid to later life budgeting and the low rate of pension made these things a boost to a bad state pension and to make life more bearable. I do not feel guilty about being well off ( I am not by the way, I class myself as comfortable) and taking these "benefits", if you're not getting a good deal pension wise from the State, then any add-ons, so to speak are highly welcome.

The State Pension will probably get phased out gradually by a Government in the future and we will all then be expected to plan ahead many years in advance to cater for ourselves in later life. That will also mean the loss of bus passes etc, so I suppose that we should brace ourselves for these probable happenings and those of a younger age at present, more certainly so. The BBC licence fee should be scrapped and something else of a lower rate be introduced as a means of contribution towards watching TV. There are no ideal answers but something will change in the next decade I feel.


A couple of years ago a friend of mine stated he thought the license fee should be scrapped altogether as he thought the BBC were biased and why should he pay if he didn't like the programs or even watch the channels.
I now agree with him -how can the solution to the gender pay gap be to increase the female wage to that of the males, when the solution was the other way round.
If the presenters feel they can get more money elsewhere let em go and do so.
Gary Lineker is the prime example of all thats wrong at the BBC ..abuses his well paid position and also gets money from BT (or is is Sky I dont really know or care tbh) ..what's that all about.

Make the BBC independent & stand on its own two feet - for too long have they sponged off the License Fee to fund their over paid 'stars'.[/quote]

I think when it comes to pay the BBC should be run like Ajax the football club.

Give young talent every opportunity possible and allow them to move on to other gigs as they wish.
Then promoting fresh talent.
There must be thousands of people awaiting an opportunity.[/quote]

But the BBC admit that their viewing public are in the majority, over the age of sixty five. How do they survive if they alienate their viewers. Who looks after the raging community, the community that actually watches the bloody telly ?[/quote]

Ask the public, do you want a cap on what we pay?[/quote]

You mean like have a referendum where they promise to respect the views of the majority and implement it?

Does anyone else find that ironic?


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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:42 am 
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As with other huge organizations without transparency you find a gravy train gets created.

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As with other huge organizations without transparency you find a gravy train gets created.


A bit like major political parties really.

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The Tories shovelled the benefit over to the BBC to cut funds - but it could now cost the government more than it saves

BBC over-75s TV licence axe backfires spectacularly as Tories face £1.6bn bill


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... e-18335538

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The Tories shovelled the benefit over to the BBC to cut funds - but it could now cost the government more than it saves

BBC over-75s TV licence axe backfires spectacularly as Tories face £1.6bn bill


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... e-18335538


Be careful about the figures quoted though KK. The £1.6b is on the assumption that everyone who is entitled to Pension credit and is not claiming it for whatever reason will suddenly do so. But what bothers me more is why the BBC and the Tories can be in such a battle like this when you keep telling us that the BBC are biased towards the Tories and are totally under their thumb. Are you able to explain this?

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