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]Economically you say that the UK is booming, what are you on, honestly.

For a few not the many as those at the top steam ahead with avarice and greed their mantra.

Meanwhile for millions there is no wage growth and for those below them there is no job security as Zero hour contracts make many reliant on food banks.

Below them you have more and more people unable to find work but unable to feed themselves because of the deficiencies within Universal credit.

Record numbers of homeless, record numbers of children living in poverty, record numbers of household debt.

But its ok, some Tory newspaper says the UK is booming, your having a fuckin laugh. Well they are.


Sorry. I thought we had record numbers of people in employment with trade figures again at record highs.? Must be all made up by the BBC.


Its a case of headline doesn't match detail, the reason the Bank of England is frightened shitless about raising interest rates.

How after a transitional period the Tories will drive the country off an economic cliff just to save their own party.[/quote]

Oh I see !!!!

Like Labour DID, you think the Tory plan is to bankrupt the country to make themselves popular.

Interesting theory[/quote]

You completely undermine your own argument if you continually blame a global financial crash on a Labour govenment.

If you remember through the decade 2000 through 2007 the Shadow chancellor George Osbourne totally backed a low regulated financial industry.

Do you really expect Labour to know the complexities of the American sub prime housing market?[/quote]


No one but you is blaming the global crash on Labour.

However, they must take the blame for the countries ability to recover, as when it happened they had sold our strategic reserves and had borrowed to levels where paying back the interest never mind the capital will hinder this country for generations.[/quote]

Not true, the recovery under Brown.Darling was showing better growth than what happening under Cameron.Osbourne as austerity shrank the economic growth.

Hammond has loosened the purse strings slightly placing him alignment to the measures Milliband/Balls were advocating in 2015.

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Come on man, talk us through domestic policies based on Venezuela or documentaries on Arthur Scargill's views on pits. Foreign and defence policies based on the use of rubber ducks and an unarmed police force saying "Evening All" to terrorists to scare them away.

Don't be shy, quote your Shadow Chancellor who was too red ( and dishonest ) for Red Ken, so he sacked him. Or perhaps on Jezza's academic theories on governance gleaned from his year in Poly studying Trade Unionism ( before being kicked back to Mommy and his Stately Home. Sadly an expensive private education can't buy intelligence, just bitterness )

And before it changes tomorrow, talk us through Labour's policy on the single market.

Come now Knocker, plenty to talk about before we get to thuggery, intimidation, anti-semitism and a conference packed with new radical, momentum members cheering for their buffoon, while good, decent, long serving socialists were refused entry or repaid for their service by being banished to the gods. Biggest percentage of new members in history ? Absolutely ( if you call thugs members), but also the biggest percentage of existing members expelled or resigned. A fact not often quoted, I wonder why ?

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https://fullfact.org/economy/labour-and-conservative-records-national-debt/


From that fullfact guide.

We see a prudent Labour government affected by a a global financial crisis, as were ALL governments.
As would have happened under a Tory government who to this day believe in loosely regulated markets.

Public sector net debt as a proportion of GDP was down under Labour for most of its term. But it then jumped from 36% of GDP in 2007/08 to 65% in 2009/10.

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https://fullfact.org/economy/labour-and-conservative-records-national-debt/


From that fullfact guide.

We see a prudent Labour government affected by a a global financial crisis, as were ALL governments.
As would have happened under a Tory government who to this day believe in loosely regulated markets.

Public sector net debt as a proportion of GDP was down under Labour for most of its term. But it then jumped from 36% of GDP in 2007/08 to 65% in 2009/10.



Any comment from you Tories or are you going to trot out this false news that Labour was responsible for what happened before, during and after the Global financial crash.

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https://fullfact.org/economy/labour-and-conservative-records-national-debt/


From that fullfact guide.

We see a prudent Labour government affected by a a global financial crisis, as were ALL governments.
As would have happened under a Tory government who to this day believe in loosely regulated markets.

Public sector net debt as a proportion of GDP was down under Labour for most of its term. But it then jumped from 36% of GDP in 2007/08 to 65% in 2009/10.



Any comment from you Tories or are you going to trot out this false news that Labour was responsible for what happened before, during and after the Global financial crash.



Asked and bloody answered. Of course Labour were not responsible for the global crisis. They were responsible for the country's ability to get over it, leaving the Treasury with nothing but mice.

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]https://fullfact.org/economy/labour-and-conservative-records-national-debt/[/quote]

From that fullfact guide.

We see a prudent Labour government affected by a a global financial crisis, as were ALL governments.
As would have happened under a Tory government who to this day believe in loosely regulated markets.

Public sector net debt as a proportion of GDP was down under Labour for most of its term. But it then jumped from 36% of GDP in 2007/08 to 65% in 2009/10.
[/quote]


Any comment from you Tories or are you going to trot out this false news that Labour was responsible for what happened before, during and after the Global financial crash.[/quote]


Asked and bloody answered. Of course Labour were not responsible for the global crisis. They were responsible for the country's ability to get over it, leaving the Treasury with nothing but mice.[/quote]

Not answered.

The question has never been answered.

Should Banks be allowed to go to the wall if they overstretch?

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Twenty seven THOUSAND people diagnosed with malnutrition. Not in the UK as a whole, but in Leeds alone. Twenty seven THOUSAND. In LEEDS.

Tories stop closing your eyes to the mounting problems under this government.

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Twenty seven THOUSAND people diagnosed with malnutrition. Not in the UK as a whole, but in Leeds alone. Twenty seven THOUSAND. In LEEDS.

Tories stop closing your eyes to the mounting problems under this government.


Surely people have to take individual responsibility for what they eat? And parents have to take responsibility for what they give their kids.

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Lord Kerslake: Jeremy Corbyn could become Prime Minister and Labour's manifesto is deliverable.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10 ... g_share_tw

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Lord Kerslake: Jeremy Corbyn could become Prime Minister and Labour's manifesto is deliverable.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10 ... g_share_tw


That's 2 we know who believe it then.

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Lord Kerslake: Jeremy Corbyn could become Prime Minister and Labour's manifesto is deliverable.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10 ... g_share_tw


That's 2 we know who believe it then.


No. That's two who publicly state or shall we say are quoted as stating they believe that.

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Any Tory thoughts on Universal Credit?

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Any Tory thoughts on Universal Credit?


The trouble with Universal Credit is that everyone thinks it’s a good idea. Labour has long backed the concept of rolling multiple benefits into one payment but studiously refused to implement it when in power. Why? Because it takes all the mess and complication that claimants have to navigate and transfers that to the government. It’s like Whitehall volunteering to find your next house, sort out the survey and fix the best mortgage for you. It sounds brilliant – and that should make you suspicious.

Quoted from The New Statesman.

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Any Tory thoughts on Universal Credit?


The trouble with Universal Credit is that everyone thinks it’s a good idea. Labour has long backed the concept of rolling multiple benefits into one payment but studiously refused to implement it when in power. Why? Because it takes all the mess and complication that claimants have to navigate and transfers that to the government. It’s like Whitehall volunteering to find your next house, sort out the survey and fix the best mortgage for you. It sounds brilliant – and that should make you suspicious.

Quoted from The New Statesman.


Basically its to much of a risk and you cant hope to get such a thing right.

Not when your dealing with vulnerable peoples lives.

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Any Tory thoughts on Universal Credit?


The trouble with Universal Credit is that everyone thinks it’s a good idea. Labour has long backed the concept of rolling multiple benefits into one payment but studiously refused to implement it when in power. Why? Because it takes all the mess and complication that claimants have to navigate and transfers that to the government. It’s like Whitehall volunteering to find your next house, sort out the survey and fix the best mortgage for you. It sounds brilliant – and that should make you suspicious.

Quoted from The New Statesman.


Basically its to much of a risk and you cant hope to get such a thing right.

Not when your dealing with vulnerable peoples lives.


So, lets empower these 'Vulnerable' people by giving them the responsibility to organise their own finances, that's an adult forward way of doing things for a government. Lets see if they pay their landlords or whether it go's on blue pop and Lambert and Butler.

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Flip it the other way.

Should the state be able to provide a roof over a persons head, heating and electricity within a home plus twenty quids worth of food per head per week.

Plus free schooling for all Children and Healthcare.

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Flip it the other way.

Should the state be able to provide a roof over a persons head, heating and electricity within a home plus twenty quids worth of food per head per week.

Plus free schooling for all Children and Healthcare.


I sure Moscow and I have those drab, endless, damp, draconian, East German tower blocks in our minds as you paint your picture of a communist utopia.

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Flip it the other way.

Should the state be able to provide a roof over a persons head, heating and electricity within a home plus twenty quids worth of food per head per week.

Plus free schooling for all Children and Healthcare.


Wheres the 52" Plasma?, Samsung phones plus contracts for me and the kids, Taxi's to Wilko's and Poundstretcher, just a bit of weed, we ay tramps you know.

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Flip it the other way.

Should the state be able to provide a roof over a persons head, heating and electricity within a home plus twenty quids worth of food per head per week.

Plus free schooling for all Children and Healthcare.


Wheres the 52" Plasma?, Samsung phones plus contracts for me and the kids, Taxi's to Wilko's and Poundstretcher, just a bit of weed, we ay tramps you know.


Here's a pack of cards learn to play rummy or solo, if you want extras earn it by doing work for others in the community.
Also extra income will be based on your childrens punctuality and good behaviour at School.

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Rozza wrote:
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Flip it the other way.

Should the state be able to provide a roof over a persons head, heating and electricity within a home plus twenty quids worth of food per head per week.

Plus free schooling for all Children and Healthcare.


Wheres the 52" Plasma?, Samsung phones plus contracts for me and the kids, Taxi's to Wilko's and Poundstretcher, just a bit of weed, we ay tramps you know.


Here's a pack of cards learn to play rummy or solo, if you want extras earn it by doing work for others in the community.
Also extra income will be based on your childrens punctuality and good behaviour at School.


Stealing Tory ideas.......again

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"]Flip it the other way.

Should the state be able to provide a roof over a persons head, heating and electricity within a home plus twenty quids worth of food per head per week.

Plus free schooling for all Children and Healthcare.[/quote]

Wheres the 52" Plasma?, Samsung phones plus contracts for me and the kids, Taxi's to Wilko's and Poundstretcher, just a bit of weed, we ay tramps you know.[/quote]

Here's a pack of cards learn to play rummy or solo, if you want extras earn it by doing work for others in the community.
Also extra income will be based on your childrens punctuality and good behaviour at School.[/quote]

Stealing Tory ideas.......again[/quote]

Really, just common sense to me.

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In France, it's illegal to cut off utilities or for a landlord to evict a tenant during the winter months.

In Britain, we have 72 landlord Conservative MPs that voted against an amendment that ensured landlords made rented homes fit for human habitation.

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In France, it's illegal to cut off utilities or for a landlord to evict a tenant during the winter months.

In Britain, we have 72 landlord Conservative MPs that voted against an amendment that ensured landlords made rented homes fit for human habitation.



The Housing and Planning Bill is passing into law. Is it not ?

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In France, it's illegal to cut off utilities or for a landlord to evict a tenant during the winter months.

In Britain, we have 72 landlord Conservative MPs that voted against an amendment that ensured landlords made rented homes fit for human habitation.



The Housing and Planning Bill is passing into law. Is it not ?


The point is Landlord Tories vote for their own selfish interests not for the interests of their constituents..

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In France, it's illegal to cut off utilities or for a landlord to evict a tenant during the winter months.

In Britain, we have 72 landlord Conservative MPs that voted against an amendment that ensured landlords made rented homes fit for human habitation.



The Housing and Planning Bill is passing into law. Is it not ?


The point is Landlord Tories vote for their own selfish interests not for the interests of their constituents..


The Tory party has past this legislation

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Anyone go to St Pauls today?



The Prime Minister went in by the side door, feeling it was her duty to show her face.

The idle rich and parasites likewise showed their face with a heavy body guard count.

The poor people had their day, today they await rehousing.

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The Government needs to get to grip with companies like Toysrus, playing workers off against their pensions.
Not acceptable.

Make the workers the preferred first creditor.

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On a lighter note, the country must be in a state, when Bargain Booze is closing down!

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