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Author:  Left back [ Sun May 26, 2019 3:42 pm ]
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An alternative point of view for those who want to balance information sources.

https://capx.co/amber-rudd-is-right-to- ... an-report/

Author:  knocker knowles [ Fri May 31, 2019 9:50 am ]
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My kind of town.


WELLINGTON, New Zealand — It’s being called the next big move by a New Zealand government seen by progressives around the world as a beacon in increasingly populist times: a national budget whose spending is dictated by what best encourages the “well-being” of citizens.

That means that as the center-left government of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern sets its priorities in the budget that will be unveiled on May 30, it is moving away from more traditional bottom-line measures like productivity and economic growth and instead focusing on goals like community and cultural connection and equity in well-being across generations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/worl ... udget.html

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:10 am ]
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/mo ... spartandhp

Author:  knocker knowles [ Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:46 am ]
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gladbachwolf wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/more-than-4m-in-uk-are-trapped-in-deep-poverty-study-finds/ar-AAF0aT9?ocid=spartandhp


Where do people stand on those people who find themselves at the bottom of society.

Those who are unable or unwilling to help themselves.

What should those that have the capacity to help do?

Author:  gladbachwolf [ Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:02 am ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
gladbachwolf wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/more-than-4m-in-uk-are-trapped-in-deep-poverty-study-finds/ar-AAF0aT9?ocid=spartandhp


Where do people stand on those people who find themselves at the bottom of society.

Those who are unable or unwilling to help themselves.

What should those that have the capacity to help do?



!). I am in favour of helping these types of people, in any society you will have rich and poor but the quality and compassion of that society is in how they might help the extreme poor.

2). This is the big problem, which poor help themselves at all in any way and those who are unable should be helped where it is proven that they cannot do so. It is noticeable to me that a lot of poor people have the most up to date and stylish mobile phones and smoke and drink alcohol copiously. Maybe it is the poverty that makes them turn to excessive smoking and drinking ( drugs too I guess) so it is a vicious circle.

3). The Government should help the very poorest once it has been determined if they cannot do anything positive for their condition but it should not become another benefits vehicle for them to ride on willy nilly. Very hard to organise and police such a system.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:04 pm ]
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The Glorious twelfth.

Its part of the idle rich summer season, it gives them something to do.

Their bank accounts are filling at the same time. Its those investments that cannot lose.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:35 pm ]
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Asda employs 120k workers who are so badly underpaid that last year they claimed £221,300,000 in working tax credits & housing benefits.

That's £356,360 per store annually.

Asda employees are now being forced to sign a contract that will see them £500pa worse off.

Author:  Left back [ Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:21 pm ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
Asda employs 120k workers who are so badly underpaid that last year they claimed £221,300,000 in working tax credits & housing benefits.

That's £356,360 per store annually.

Asda employees are now being forced to sign a contract that will see them £500pa worse off.



You really need to be more careful with the way you write things. You are like one of those papers who spin to suit and whom you love so much and yet you are practiced in the art. It is clear that Asda are trying to impose a new contract on staff but you don't report that they deny that most of their staff will be worse off and that they say they are actually investing £80m to fund the new contracts. Although some staff will lose paid breaks and have a reduced number of unsocial hours paid and COULD be up to £500 worse off, the minimum pay is increasing from £8.21 per hour to £9.00 per hour and others, probably the lowest paid of all, will be better off. They also deny that they are forcing people to sign the new contracts so only time will tell if that is true. I don't love low paying employers either but I think we should look at the full facts before making any judgements.

Author:  Rozza [ Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:47 pm ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
Asda employs 120k workers who are so badly underpaid that last year they claimed £221,300,000 in working tax credits & housing benefits.

That's £356,360 per store annually.

Asda employees are now being forced to sign a contract that will see them £500pa worse off.


One company turned over 595 million pounds last year. It has thousands of properties, 100's of thousands of acres of land in its portfolio in Great Britain and Ireland.
100's of business are owned by it, yet it pays the minimum wage to its thousands of base rate employees, it also has a zero hour pay policy and encourages volunteers to fill jobs.
Who are they knocker?
They certainly dont conform to your proletariat principles in relation to the distribution of wealth innit.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:17 am ]
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Rozza wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Asda employs 120k workers who are so badly underpaid that last year they claimed £221,300,000 in working tax credits & housing benefits.

That's £356,360 per store annually.

Asda employees are now being forced to sign a contract that will see them £500pa worse off.


One company turned over 595 million pounds last year. It has thousands of properties, 100's of thousands of acres of land in its portfolio in Great Britain and Ireland.
100's of business are owned by it, yet it pays the minimum wage to its thousands of base rate employees, it also has a zero hour pay policy and encourages volunteers to fill jobs.
Who are they knocker?
They certainly dont conform to your proletariat principles in relation to the distribution of wealth innit.


I agree, The Labour part should be setting standards for others to follow within a corrupt society that it seeks to represent.
Perhaps its a sad reflection that real change is slower than expected due to those who have infested the party with the wrong ideals.

Author:  Rozza [ Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:26 pm ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
Rozza wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Asda employs 120k workers who are so badly underpaid that last year they claimed £221,300,000 in working tax credits & housing benefits.

That's £356,360 per store annually.

Asda employees are now being forced to sign a contract that will see them £500pa worse off.


One company turned over 595 million pounds last year. It has thousands of properties, 100's of thousands of acres of land in its portfolio in Great Britain and Ireland.
100's of business are owned by it, yet it pays the minimum wage to its thousands of base rate employees, it also has a zero hour pay policy and encourages volunteers to fill jobs.
Who are they knocker?
They certainly dont conform to your proletariat principles in relation to the distribution of wealth innit.


I agree, The Labour part should be setting standards for others to follow within a corrupt society that it seeks to represent.
Perhaps its a sad reflection that real change is slower than expected due to those who have infested the party with the wrong ideals.


?
I am referring to The National Trust.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:51 pm ]
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]Asda employs 120k workers who are so badly underpaid that last year they claimed £221,300,000 in working tax credits & housing benefits.

That's £356,360 per store annually.

Asda employees are now being forced to sign a contract that will see them £500pa worse off.[/quote]

One company turned over 595 million pounds last year. It has thousands of properties, 100's of thousands of acres of land in its portfolio in Great Britain and Ireland.
100's of business are owned by it, yet it pays the minimum wage to its thousands of base rate employees, it also has a zero hour pay policy and encourages volunteers to fill jobs.
Who are they knocker?
They certainly dont conform to your proletariat principles in relation to the distribution of wealth innit.[/quote]

I agree, The Labour part should be setting standards for others to follow within a corrupt society that it seeks to represent.
Perhaps its a sad reflection that real change is slower than expected due to those who have infested the party with the wrong ideals.[/quote]

?
I am referring to The National Trust.[/quote]

Oh sorry, I thought you were having your usual pop against the Labour party.

Author:  suiging [ Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:58 pm ]
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And the fish just couldn't help himself....

Author:  Rozza [ Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:13 pm ]
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suiging wrote:
And the fish just couldn't help himself....


R. Its amazing how one can be fooled by spin innit. Post the words they want to hear and stand back. I bet knocker is a member :lol:

Author:  Left back [ Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:58 pm ]
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Rozza wrote:
suiging wrote:
And the fish just couldn't help himself....


R. Its amazing how one can be fooled by spin innit. Post the words they want to hear and stand back. I bet knocker is a member :lol:


:lol:

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:41 am ]
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Labour to give councils power to seize boarded up shops.

Great policy...

Author:  suiging [ Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:09 pm ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
Labour to give councils power to seize boarded up shops.

Great policy...


Who will compensate the owners?

Author:  Left back [ Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:30 pm ]
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suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Labour to give councils power to seize boarded up shops.

Great policy...


Who will compensate the owners?


You are forgetting that all property is theft. Just make sure you keep your house guarded.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:47 am ]
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The Tory ‘think tank’ that dreamed up Universal Credit is now laying the groundwork for the state pension age to be raised to 75, and says “working longer potentially improves health and wellbeing”.

Failed Tory ideology only offers misery for the many.

Author:  suiging [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:52 am ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
The Tory ‘think tank’ that dreamed up Universal Credit is now laying the groundwork for the state pension age to be raised to 75, and says “working longer potentially improves health and wellbeing”.

Failed Tory ideology only offers misery for the many.



Source KK?

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:59 am ]
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suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
The Tory ‘think tank’ that dreamed up Universal Credit is now laying the groundwork for the state pension age to be raised to 75, and says “working longer potentially improves health and wellbeing”.

Failed Tory ideology only offers misery for the many.



Source KK?


Ian Drunken Smith.

Author:  suiging [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:07 am ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
The Tory ‘think tank’ that dreamed up Universal Credit is now laying the groundwork for the state pension age to be raised to 75, and says “working longer potentially improves health and wellbeing”.

Failed Tory ideology only offers misery for the many.



Source KK?


Ian Drunken Smith.


Another London centric-think tank, full of Islington luvvies. Another reason Corbyn has to go to get a proper "Labour" leader installed to be a 'proper' opposition and a viable future Government not tied to Marxists and Union leaders, hell bent on feathering their own nests at the cost to every working man.

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:14 am ]
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]The Tory ‘think tank’ that dreamed up Universal Credit is now laying the groundwork for the state pension age to be raised to 75, and says “working longer potentially improves health and wellbeing”.

Failed Tory ideology only offers misery for the many.[/quote]


Source KK?[/quote]

Ian Drunken Smith.[/quote]

Another London centric-think tank, full of Islington luvvies. Another reason Corbyn has to go to get a proper "Labour" leader installed to be a 'proper' opposition and a viable future Government not tied to Marxists and Union leaders, hell bent on feathering their own nests at the cost to every working man.[/quote]

Its sad that you probably believe this. Rather than argue the toss, as a teenager did you have these type of views and what was your influence through the years?

Author:  suiging [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:29 am ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
]The Tory ‘think tank’ that dreamed up Universal Credit is now laying the groundwork for the state pension age to be raised to 75, and says “working longer potentially improves health and wellbeing”.

Failed Tory ideology only offers misery for the many.



Source KK?[/quote]

Ian Drunken Smith.[/quote]

Another London centric-think tank, full of Islington luvvies. Another reason Corbyn has to go to get a proper "Labour" leader installed to be a 'proper' opposition and a viable future Government not tied to Marxists and Union leaders, hell bent on feathering their own nests at the cost to every working man.[/quote]

Its sad that you probably believe this. Rather than argue the toss, as a teenager did you have these type of views and what was your influence through the years?[/quote]

I was a teenager in the seventies. I have seen what out of control Unions bring to the country., three day weeks and black-outs I was also in the military in the late seventies, posted to Germany and Berlin. Again I have actually seen what communism looks like. Armed with these experiences I can see through Corbyn and McDonnell, and know who they really are.

I went on a resettlement course after the Mob with a bloke who worked with Arthur Scargill in the pits. He told me of the day Scargill saw the light, downed tools and said "Fuck working for a living, I'm off to join the Union".

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:33 am ]
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So you have never been aware of the good Unions have done through the decades or how owners and managers have exploited the working person?

Author:  suiging [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:34 am ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
So you have never been aware of the good Unions have done through the decades or how owners and managers have exploited the working person?



Tell me about your life experiences ? Why should anyone listen to you ?

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:47 am ]
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suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
So you have never been aware of the good Unions have done through the decades or how owners and managers have exploited the working person?



Tell me about your life experiences ? Why should anyone listen to you ?


I was very unfortunate, my biological parents couldn't co exist so I was passed around from home to home.
Received very little formal education so have had to read in excess as a form of catch up.

As you can tell by my lack of writing skills.

If your a kid in the sixties your not going to have a backdrop of social services, so its lonely dark nights and a hell of a lot of shit that follows.

Author:  suiging [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:53 am ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
So you have never been aware of the good Unions have done through the decades or how owners and managers have exploited the working person?



Tell me about your life experiences ? Why should anyone listen to you ?


I was very unfortunate, my biological parents couldn't co exist so I was passed around from home to home.
Received very little formal education so have had to read in excess as a form of catch up.

As you can tell by my lack of writing skills.

If your a kid in the sixties your not going to have a backdrop of social services, so its lonely dark nights and a hell of a lot of shit that follows.


You have my sympathy. We all had many dark nights due to the three day week. I am beginning to see where your hatred for anyone that has had a better start in life. But Corbyn was born with a great big silver spoon firmly in his mouth. He is a multi-millionare who tries to hide it by being a tramp both in thought and appearance. Are you mesmerised with his promises to make his followers the king's of the hill, or do you just wish to take from those that have, because you didn't have it from the start ?

Author:  knocker knowles [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:00 am ]
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So you have never been aware of the good Unions have done through the decades or how owners and managers have exploited the working person?[/quote]


Tell me about your life experiences ? Why should anyone listen to you ?[/quote]

I was very unfortunate, my biological parents couldn't co exist so I was passed around from home to home.
Received very little formal education so have had to read in excess as a form of catch up.

As you can tell by my lack of writing skills.

If your a kid in the sixties your not going to have a backdrop of social services, so its lonely dark nights and a hell of a lot of shit that follows.[/quote]

You have my sympathy. We all had many dark nights due to the three day week. I am beginning to see where your hatred for anyone that has had a better start in life. But Corbyn was born with a great big silver spoon firmly in his mouth. He is a multi-millionare who tries to hide it by being a tramp both in thought and appearance. Are you mesmerised with his promises to make his followers the king's of the hill, or do you just wish to take from those that have, because you didn't have it from the start ?[/quote]

No I was reading and exploring Karl Marx from about 14 years of age, many years before I came across Jeremy Corbyn who would be to the right of me with more socialist views.

Author:  Rozza [ Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:30 pm ]
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knocker knowles wrote:
suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
So you have never been aware of the good Unions have done through the decades or how owners and managers have exploited the working person?



Tell me about your life experiences ? Why should anyone listen to you ?


I was very unfortunate, my biological parents couldn't co exist so I was passed around from home to home.
Received very little formal education so have had to read in excess as a form of catch up.

As you can tell by my lack of writing skills.

If your a kid in the sixties your not going to have a backdrop of social services, so its lonely dark nights and a hell of a lot of shit that follows.


Be yourself. You got this far, stop regarding others interpretations or thoughts or views as better than yourself. Just post your own thoughts and shit, if others dont like it, fuck um. Tis the basis of human interaction since time began, lead dont follow. You talk very much shit indeed, but your own stuff is poorly disguised but VERY different. Are you Chalky White?, if so I claim my £50

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