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So what are the deciding factors for you, what makes you as a person place your cross next to whom.

Me, as always its about Front Line Services.

And I trust Labour to properly fund them as a priority.

That gets my vote.

YOU?

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So what are the deciding factors for you, what makes you as a person place your cross next to whom.

Me, as always its about Front Line Services.

And I trust Labour to properly fund them as a priority.

That gets my vote.

YOU?


Simply type in " Dianne Abbott interviews" and see today's disaster. Then follow on with looking at the official Labour announcement that she is now ill and won't speak again until after Thursday. That's all you need to do before voting.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:03 pm 
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“Al Muhajiroun held placards reading ‘Palestine is Muslim’. They chanted, “Skud, Skud Israel” and “Gas, gas Tel Aviv”, along with their support for bin Laden. Two would-be suicide posers were dressed in combat fatigues with a ‘bomb’ strapped to their waists. This section accounted for no more than 200-300, but they made a noise far out of proportion to their numbers… The rally was also addressed by Labour MPs Jeremy Corbyn and George Galloway.”


Need I say more ?......2002. Perhaps he had a different hairstyle then ?

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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:38 am 
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When you vote tomorrow one things important, and its not voting Labour.

Whats important if you value front line services, good schools for your kids, good hospitals, a good sized police force.
And an end to this stupid Austerity for the poor.

Is that you DONT VOTE CONSERVATIVE..

It really is important, vote for anyone else please.

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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:09 am 
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knocker knowles wrote:
When you vote tomorrow one things important, and its not voting Labour.

Whats important if you value front line services, good schools for your kids, good hospitals, a good sized police force.
And an end to this stupid Austerity for the poor.

Is that you DONT VOTE CONSERVATIVE..

It really is important, vote for anyone else please.


A vote for anyone else allows a coalition to be formed. You would get not only Jezza and Miss Dianne in power but shallow Farron and wee cranky pulling their strings.

If that's what you think would be good governance ...........You're simply mad.

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Not at all impressed with any of the Parties leaders, all incompetents. I think that the result will be a lot closer than anyone would have imagined a month or so ago..the young new vote will have a big say in the outcome, don't be surprised if we get a hung parliament...another mess potentially that will stymie Brexit...who will I vote for..??? God knows, where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you really need it..??.. :lol: 8)

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the young new vote will have a big say in the outcome)


The least reliable group to actually go out and vote.

It seems that YouGov have nonetheless ignored that fact and are still predicting seemingly on the basis of every young person actually voting, and actually all voting Labour, that a hung parliament is possible (this all assumes that YouGov hasn't been infiltrated by Tories wanting to enhance the fear of a hung parliament, given this paid off big time for them in 2015).

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Remember every vote for any other party apart from the Tories is a vote for HOPE, for a better future.

Because a Tory landslide or even an increased majority gives them scope to unleash all kinds of fuckery against ordinary people.

They will unleash hell against your children and older folk by created a two tier health and Schools system.

If you can pay for good hospital treatment you will be fine, but if you have to wait for an operation that queue will stretch to many months.

School cuts will create a them and us system, good schools for them, schools that fall apart and come under massive strain for you.

Then think of a hard brexit, the Tories created the mess that is Brexit and they will be responsible when the economy goes down the toilet.

Think hard before you vote, a vote for Tories is like a Turkey voting for Christmas.

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knocker knowles wrote:
Remember every vote for any other party apart from the Tories is a vote for HOPE, for a better future.

Because a Tory landslide or even an increased majority gives them scope to unleash all kinds of fuckery against ordinary people.

They will unleash hell against your children and older folk by created a two tier health and Schools system.

If you can pay for good hospital treatment you will be fine, but if you have to wait for an operation that queue will stretch to many months.

School cuts will create a them and us system, good schools for them, schools that fall apart and come under massive strain for you.

Then think of a hard brexit, the Tories created the mess that is Brexit and they will be responsible when the economy goes down the toilet.

Think hard before you vote, a vote for Tories is like a Turkey voting for Christmas.



A vote for Labour puts the Turkeys in charge

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knocker knowles wrote:
Remember every vote for any other party apart from the Tories is a vote for HOPE, for a better future.

Because a Tory landslide or even an increased majority gives them scope to unleash all kinds of fuckery against ordinary people.

They will unleash hell against your children and older folk by created a two tier health and Schools system.

If you can pay for good hospital treatment you will be fine, but if you have to wait for an operation that queue will stretch to many months.

School cuts will create a them and us system, good schools for them, schools that fall apart and come under massive strain for you.

Then think of a hard brexit, the Tories created the mess that is Brexit and they will be responsible when the economy goes down the toilet.

Think hard before you vote, a vote for Tories is like a Turkey voting for Christmas.



A vote for Labour puts the Turkeys in charge



A vote for Labour sees wealth distribution done correctly, for the many not the few.

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I can't vote conservative. They are responsible for the whole Brexit car crash which is going to trash the economy. They are still misleading the country on the real implications and given the election was supposed to be about a brexit mandate we have been told nothing about what Theresa mays plan actually is beyond macho crap about being a " bloody difficult woman". This in itself is misleading- she is putting forward an image of her going into a head to head meeting with the likes of merkel- but that is not how it works. It will be our team led by Davis versus their team led by commission negotiators. As with the brexit campaign itself the whole thing is being fundamentally misrepresented by May and the Tory press
Plus her much vaunted competence must be in question given she appears against substantial odds to be coming off worst in an election campaign against Jeremy Corbyn! She may well win but the fact he has closed the gap as much as he has says a lot.
I can't vote Labour- we can't have a bunch of student union activists in charge. Diane Abbott as hind secretary in the middle of a terror campaign. Unreal economics anti Semitic and a man without the confidence of his own MPs?
Based on their values a realistic approach to tax ( a penny on the rate for everyone to fund social care etc) I can only vote Lib Dem for all they will not win. At least they are being honest about what needs to be done and what we are facing...


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This in itself is misleading- she is putting forward an image of her going into a head to head meeting with the likes of merkel- but that is not how it works. It will be our team led by Davis versus their team led by commission negotiators. As with the brexit campaign itself the whole thing is being fundamentally misrepresented by May and the Tory press


Which won't wash.

While May is always stressing negotiations will be conducted in private, the EU has committed itself to informing the public throughout the process.

And why wouldn't they?

They have all the aces, and a far sharper team than a clown like David Davis whose big attempt at political power ended with him being outmaneuvered by a lightweight like Cameron who then spent his time in office being consistently outmaneuvered by the EU and UKIP. They have the weight of 27 nations behind him and the biggest two economies on the continent, we have one grinding to a halt.

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After voting right at both elections that I have been able to vote in, I am switching sides. I've noticed myself take on more socialist values as the last couple of years has gone on. I can't condone voting for the Tories and the decapitation of ordinary people.

Love or hate Corbyn, at least he's stuck by his values at all times and never changed them just to come "electable". That's someone who I want in charge.

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After voting right at both elections that I have been able to vote in, I am switching sides. I've noticed myself take on more socialist values as the last couple of years has gone on. I can't condone voting for the Tories and the decapitation of ordinary people.

Love or hate Corbyn, at least he's stuck by his values at all times and never changed them just to come "electable". That's someone who I want in charge.



You don't get just Corbyn. Even I might look at him differently if that was the case. You get his Marxist handlers and the incompetents who have used threats to get on board McCluskey's band wagon.

Corbyn has changed his colours HUNDREDS of times. Check what he voted and didn't vote for as a backbencher. He lies through his bloody teeth. Yes they all do, but not all are puppets for Animal Farm type dictatorships.

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Exit Poll Tories on 314
Oh dear, if true..

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May and possibly Sturgeon's positions could be weakened
The youth vote of the country will be decisive.
Labour ran a great campaign.

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CANNOCK WOLF wrote:
May and possibly Sturgeon's positions could be weakened
The youth vote of the country will be decisive.
Labour ran a great campaign.



Did they ?

Or was it just May was so bloody awful ? Either way a hung parliament at this moment in history is an utter disaster

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Exit Poll Tories on 314
Oh dear, if true..


What a mess ...you would have thought that given the surprise results of brexit and trump that the tories would have made a better fist of this and hammer home their early advantage rather then count their chickens..and propose such antagonistic divisive , ill-considered proposals.

arrogance ...yet again.

If the exit polls are correct this is a minefield.


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May had a mare, and Labour grew in confidence.
Tory arrogance...will never go away.
If this is correct..Its a NO, to the Tories, Brexit, and Scottish Independence.

So will we have a second General Election?
Will May resign as leader of the party?
Or a coalition, with a vote by vote..bill by bill government
Northern Ireland (DUP) could be important..
Maybe a second Brexit vote, and NO second Scottish Independent vote?

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There is no constitutional right for the largest party to form a government. It's which party can gain a majority in the Commons.

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Corbyn now odds on to be next PM with bookies.

Could we be heading for a coalition of:

Labour
SNP (payment will be another independence vote)
Lib Dem (they can redeem themselves for the Tory coalition, right here)

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Tories may well do better than forecast and be able to just about scrape together a coalition of their own.


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Total Disaster

Of course Corbyn said there would be no coalition........so that's alright then.
I know bow out of this. Well done to all of you that have bought into Corbyn Abbott and McCluskey. All the promises made by both parties will now be laid bare.

The pounds already falling, a hung parliament led by Corbyn can now borrow their way to utopia. Coalition with the SNP .....Independent Scotland and a United Ireland. You think the IRA campaign was bad, wait for the Red Hands.

Well done Knocker. The people have spoken. The people can now live with the consequences.

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I'm depressed, and worried, and now the pound will be further buggered, and BREXIT will be used more and more, to deliver bad news :cry:

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Typical Tories they keep calling elections for their own personal gain then find different results to what they expect.

Thats the difference between us, you dont gamble the nations economy by going for a referendum to stop the infighting on your back benches.

You dont then gamble that brexit result because you feel once again you can boost your own individual standing.

Tories are fuckers for this putting themselves above what benefits the country.

And they somehow try and swerve the responsibility for their actions.

The country suffers now and it should anger you that these bastards play games with you and your families.

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the young new vote will have a big say in the outcome)


The least reliable group to actually go out and vote.

It seems that YouGov have nonetheless ignored that fact and are still predicting seemingly on the basis of every young person actually voting, and actually all voting Labour, that a hung parliament is possible (this all assumes that YouGov hasn't been infiltrated by Tories wanting to enhance the fear of a hung parliament, given this paid off big time for them in 2015).



But with 72% of the young having voted, according to reports early today, it would seem that they DID get off their arses and vote for once.... 8)

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the young new vote will have a big say in the outcome)


The least reliable group to actually go out and vote.

It seems that YouGov have nonetheless ignored that fact and are still predicting seemingly on the basis of every young person actually voting, and actually all voting Labour, that a hung parliament is possible (this all assumes that YouGov hasn't been infiltrated by Tories wanting to enhance the fear of a hung parliament, given this paid off big time for them in 2015).



But with 72% of the young having voted, according to reports early today, it would seem that they DID get off their arses and vote for once.... 8)


Well done to them all joining in with the democratic process. I just didn't see such a jump in youth participation after apparently even their EU status haven't awoken the masses.

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Since the election was called I had noticed in conversations with a lot of young people in my town here in Swindon, that they were going to vote and it was Labour as their choice. I had not heard that before here, as apathy usually ruled.

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Didn't help Mrs May scaring off you oldies with the dementia tax, worst campaign in memory, that manifesto collapsed their support. I think the polls showing a big Con win caused some to sit on their hands. Good for the Union that the SNP lost so many.

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