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 Post subject: Re: The Royal Wedding
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:57 am 
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Not sure the two are remotely equivalent.

In the one, an American citizen had a momentary lapse when turning out of an aircraft base and forgetting in an instant that in England we drive on the left. Collided with and killed boy. Panicked and fled. She SHOULD return and face the music. If she was Eastern European, would our government be more determined to chase?

In the other, a man is accused of taking sexual gratification from an under-age girl procured for him by a sleaze-ball with a well-known reputation for dalliances with young girls. He SHOULD face up to the consequences of his actions. He SHOULD volunteer to return to the US and answer questions re just how much he knew of sleaze-bag's activities.

Both are hiding behind privilege - one diplomatic, the other 'royalty'. Those advising both should be urging them to 'do the decent thing', no matter the consequences. Everyone would think the better of both if they did. They both have a stain on them that will haunt them to the grave.

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 Post subject: Re: The Royal Wedding
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:17 pm 
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Not sure the two are remotely equivalent.

In the one, an American citizen had a momentary lapse when turning out of an aircraft base and forgetting in an instant that in England we drive on the left. Collided with and killed boy. Panicked and fled. She SHOULD return and face the music. If she was Eastern European, would our government be more determined to chase?

In the other, a man is accused of taking sexual gratification from an under-age girl procured for him by a sleaze-ball with a well-known reputation for dalliances with young girls. He SHOULD face up to the consequences of his actions. He SHOULD volunteer to return to the US and answer questions re just how much he knew of sleaze-bag's activities.

Both are hiding behind privilege - one diplomatic, the other 'royalty'. Those advising both should be urging them to 'do the decent thing', no matter the consequences. Everyone would think the better of both if they did. They both have a stain on them that will haunt them to the grave.


If Andrew was American he would be advised to, and almost certainly would, take the fifth and say bugger all. WE seem to be expecting more from him than an American, perhaps we should, but then the same people who say the Royals are an anachronism, can't them turn round and expect more from them/him as a member of an institution they despise than any normal citizen who would say absolutely nothing in an American Court. I met Andrew in the military, he was an obnoxious twit then, he is now. But if you want the Royals to be normal, normal does not incriminate itself in the American legal system.

Yet again Blair's henchman, Campbell slips under the radar. He was a much closer friend of Epstein. Why no calls for him to give evidence ?

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 Post subject: Re: The Royal Wedding
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:00 pm 
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SilverstoneWolf wrote:
Not sure the two are remotely equivalent.

In the one, an American citizen had a momentary lapse when turning out of an aircraft base and forgetting in an instant that in England we drive on the left. Collided with and killed boy. Panicked and fled. She SHOULD return and face the music. If she was Eastern European, would our government be more determined to chase?.


You are making quite a few assumptions there SW. Aside from the collision itself, her failure to report the matter is an offence per se under the Road Traffic Act plus numerous others that may have been committed by the standards of her driving at the time.

This may sound callous but the Solicitors acting on behalf of the Dunn family are really getting on my tits now with their chest beating highly publicised nonsense that seeks to promote nothing other than their sense of wronged entitlement.

The way forward for me would be to seek a charge of death by dangerous/careless driving on the lady and require her in her absence to attend a Magistrates Court. The need to interview her is neither here nor there and does not really matter considering if she were actually in custody she would be strongly advised to refuse to answer any questions put to her so the status quo remains.

She would obviously fail to appear at that court so a warrant for her arrest would be issued and she then also commits an offence under the Extradition Act.
The Countries that the UK can extradite people from are split into categories, the USA is in Category 1 and therefore a right of extradition exists under UK law and PACE.
She would eventually be found guilty in her absence at court hopefully, and she would be duly sentenced by a UK Court. This however does not overcome the issue of Diplomatic Immunity which will NEVER be rescinded by the US as that will open up legal precedent and create future monsters.

However, the family will have a little closure in the criminal proceedings and a verdict of guilty will open up their access to punishments under Civil Law which again is a minefield for them.

There are no real winners in Law, the word 'Justice' actually means fuck all because it is singular in a usually multi faceted scenario, one mans Justice is another mans injustice, it just go's on.

The Dunn family need to ultimately assess where they want to be in this processes endgame.

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 Post subject: Re: The Royal Wedding
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Don't expect Andrew to be held accountable.

Its not what these parasites do.

The bloke will go to ground, keep out of the news and hope over time this passes over.

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Don't expect Andrew to be held accountable.

Its not what these parasites do.

The bloke will go to ground, keep out of the news and hope over time this passes over.


Responsible for what exactly?

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knocker knowles wrote:
Don't expect Andrew to be held accountable.

Its not what these parasites do.

The bloke will go to ground, keep out of the news and hope over time this passes over.


Responsible for what exactly?


Decades of pedophilia..

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 Post subject: Re: The Royal Wedding
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suiging wrote:
knocker knowles wrote:
Don't expect Andrew to be held accountable.

Its not what these parasites do.

The bloke will go to ground, keep out of the news and hope over time this passes over.


Responsible for what exactly?


Decades of pedophilia..


You mean like Corbyn?

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]Don't expect Andrew to be held accountable.

Its not what these parasites do.

The bloke will go to ground, keep out of the news and hope over time this passes over.[/quote]

Responsible for what exactly?[/quote]

Decades of pedophilia..[/quote]

You mean like Corbyn?[/quote]

NO, I mean like the majority of his family and ancestors.

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knocker knowles wrote:
]Don't expect Andrew to be held accountable.

Its not what these parasites do.

The bloke will go to ground, keep out of the news and hope over time this passes over.


Responsible for what exactly?[/quote]

Decades of pedophilia..[/quote]

You mean like Corbyn?[/quote]

NO, I mean like the majority of his family and ancestors.[/quote]


Corbyn's? I don't think so.

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At a time of National Emergency these fuckers are as useful as a chocolate teapot.

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At a time of National Emergency these fuckers are as useful as a chocolate teapot.


Not sure many on the Home front during the World Wars would agree with you

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