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So now we have Johnson.

Give us strength.


So given the current leaders of the respective parties and their parties stance - or perceived stance at least - on Brexit ,who do you think would win a GE tomorrow ?


The perception of a fair few of the General public believe Johnson can deliver a good Brexit, be that deal or no deal.
So tomorrow Johnson would win a General Election, the longer he leaves it when REALITY meets bluster head on that mindset will change.

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knocker knowles wrote:
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So now we have Johnson.

Give us strength.


So given the current leaders of the respective parties and their parties stance - or perceived stance at least - on Brexit ,who do you think would win a GE tomorrow ?


The perception of a fair few of the General public believe Johnson can deliver a good Brexit, be that deal or no deal.
So tomorrow Johnson would win a General Election, the longer he leaves it when REALITY meets bluster head on that mindset will change.


Interesting comment- I tend to agree with the first statement...I wonder if he will call one.

The doubters who have caused issues (Sourbys etc.) on small majorities wont even get their local party nominations & couple that with an increased majority could potentially sort this out once and for all.

A brave call ...


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It would be interesting but bear in mind that Knocker is espousing the Labour lefty tactic to try and con the Tories into calling an early election because they believe it is their best hope of achieving power.

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Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.

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Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.


Will you then refuse to support Labour policy as you yourself voted to leave knocker?

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Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.


Will you then refuse to support Labour policy as you yourself voted to leave knocker?


The Tories continue to fail to deliver a good exit plan based on keeping a sound economic structure.

So rather than be thrown off a cliff I would vote to STAY IN....For now.

The ERG stole our wish for their own aims, pocket fillers and Charlatans.

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knocker knowles wrote:
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Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.


Will you then refuse to support Labour policy as you yourself voted to leave knocker?


The Tories continue to fail to deliver a good exit plan based on keeping a sound economic structure.

So rather than be thrown off a cliff I would vote to STAY IN....For now.

The ERG stole our wish for their own aims, pocket fillers and Charlatans.


Now that's funny :D :D :D :D

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"]Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.[/quote]

Will you then refuse to support Labour policy as you yourself voted to leave knocker?[/quote]

The Tories continue to fail to deliver a good exit plan based on keeping a sound economic structure.

So rather than be thrown off a cliff I would vote to STAY IN....For now.

The ERG stole our wish for their own aims, pocket fillers and Charlatans.[/quote]

Now that's funny :D :D :D :D[/quote]

Whys that, shouldn't those who wish to leave expect the government who offered the opportunity to have explored all options and been capable of delivering the best one?

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knocker knowles wrote:
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Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.


Will you then refuse to support Labour policy as you yourself voted to leave knocker?


The Tories continue to fail to deliver a good exit plan based on keeping a sound economic structure.

So rather than be thrown off a cliff I would vote to STAY IN....For now.

The ERG stole our wish for their own aims, pocket fillers and Charlatans.


Its unlike you to spout contradictory bollocks knocker, you should start wearing a hat in the sun mate :roll:

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]Johnson through his bluster is making it more obvious that he will try and leave with NO DEAL.

He will be voted down, so his next step will be a General Election.

Labour will then stand on a REMAIN IN THE EU TICKET.[/quote]

Will you then refuse to support Labour policy as you yourself voted to leave knocker?[/quote]

The Tories continue to fail to deliver a good exit plan based on keeping a sound economic structure.

So rather than be thrown off a cliff I would vote to STAY IN....For now.

The ERG stole our wish for their own aims, pocket fillers and Charlatans.[/quote]

Its unlike you to spout contradictory bollocks knocker, you should start wearing a hat in the sun mate :roll:[/quote]

Whats contradictory?

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knocker knowles wrote:
Whats contradictory?


mutually opposed or inconsistent innit.

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Rozza wrote:
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Whats contradictory?


mutually opposed or inconsistent innit.


Oh I thought because someone VOTED TO LEAVE..They should accept any old deal cos its democratic ay it.
Are you happy for your family and friends if over the next decades over a hundred thousand jobs are lost and the economy tanks.
The economic downturn which will effect house prices, pensions and front line services

The value of that pound in your pocket worth ten bob in next to no time.

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knocker knowles wrote:
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Whats contradictory?


mutually opposed or inconsistent innit.


Oh I thought because someone VOTED TO LEAVE..They should accept any old deal cos its democratic ay it.
Are you happy for your family and friends if over the next decades over a hundred thousand jobs are lost and the economy tanks.
The economic downturn which will effect house prices, pensions and front line services

The value of that pound in your pocket worth ten bob in next to no time.


Never mind KK if you have your wish and we get Venezuelan economy, you can have millions of pounds in your account. You'll need them to buy bread if you can find any.

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knocker knowles wrote:
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Whats contradictory?


mutually opposed or inconsistent innit.


Oh I thought because someone VOTED TO LEAVE..They should accept any old deal cos its democratic ay it.
Are you happy for your family and friends if over the next decades over a hundred thousand jobs are lost and the economy tanks.
The economic downturn which will effect house prices, pensions and front line services

The value of that pound in your pocket worth ten bob in next to no time.



A lot of assumptions there though Knocker. on which not all experts agree, particularly in the medium to longer term.

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knocker knowles wrote:
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Whats contradictory?


mutually opposed or inconsistent innit.


Oh I thought because someone VOTED TO LEAVE..They should accept any old deal cos its democratic ay it.
Are you happy for your family and friends if over the next decades over a hundred thousand jobs are lost and the economy tanks.
The economic downturn which will effect house prices, pensions and front line services

The value of that pound in your pocket worth ten bob in next to no time.


YOU voted to leave when the deal was ONLY leave or stay, nothing more nothing less.

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I voted leave because with the right plan it could have been the best option.

I expected regulatory alignment as a key to continued economic growth.


Now with the negotiated deal unable to pass a majority vote and Johnsons government clueless its best to review whats best for the country.

Put NO DEAL and REVOKE on the General Election ticket.

Who wins?

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Perhaps it is best to put the question on a General Election ballot paper. It is patently obvious that a Parliament with 72% of MP's against Leave will stymie and use any laws, court actions etc etc to stop the country leaving. So, we are stuck in the quicksand and need to move on somehow. The people should decide not these political self-serving arseholes who are an embarrassment to our country. But, do you hold an election, possibly see Corbyn become PM and have the worst possible scenario of Government one could imagine and don't get me wrong, the Tories are a right shambolic mess as well and I see no party ready and capable to lead the country forward. Or, a second referendum and winner takes all but if it was Remain, the original referendum result would have been ignored and pissed upon, a once proud democratic country would be no more. Decisions, decisions...…….....

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knocker knowles wrote:
I voted leave because with the right plan it could have been the best option.

I expected regulatory alignment as a key to continued economic growth.


Now with the negotiated deal unable to pass a majority vote and Johnsons government clueless its best to review whats best for the country.

Put NO DEAL and REVOKE on the General Election ticket.

Who wins?


Why did you expect that - it has the potential to put us at a diss-advangtage

even if adding to a GE voting sip was a viable option - and I cant see how or even why - why on earth should revoke be on there ...we have made that choice regardless of what Duplicitous MP's would like ..WE are not here to serve THEM.


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Boris is being very clever.

Want to end austerity ? He promises that. Want to leave the EU? Vote Bozza.

Want investment in the North, in the NHS, in Social Services, in the police ? He promises all of that.

Just imagine if he tries to actually do what he promises ? What would Jezza say then ? What policies does Labour ACTUALLY have ?

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I voted leave because with the right plan it could have been the best option.

I expected regulatory alignment as a key to continued economic growth.


Now with the negotiated deal unable to pass a majority vote and Johnsons government clueless its best to review whats best for the country.

Put NO DEAL and REVOKE on the General Election ticket.

Who wins?


Why did you expect that - it has the potential to put us at a diss-advangtage

even if adding to a GE voting sip was a viable option - and I cant see how or even why - why on earth should revoke be on there ...we have made that choice regardless of what Duplicitous MP's would like ..WE are not here to serve THEM.



Lets examine that point.

Why should regulatory alignment give us a disadvantage.

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I voted leave because with the right plan it could have been the best option.

I expected regulatory alignment as a key to continued economic growth.




But you didn't tell us that at the time. I sometimes wonder if you have a revisionist memory.

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knocker knowles wrote:
davejonesears wrote:
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I voted leave because with the right plan it could have been the best option.

I expected regulatory alignment as a key to continued economic growth.


Now with the negotiated deal unable to pass a majority vote and Johnsons government clueless its best to review whats best for the country.

Put NO DEAL and REVOKE on the General Election ticket.

Who wins?


Why did you expect that - it has the potential to put us at a diss-advangtage

even if adding to a GE voting sip was a viable option - and I cant see how or even why - why on earth should revoke be on there ...we have made that choice regardless of what Duplicitous MP's would like ..WE are not here to serve THEM.



Lets examine that point.

Why should regulatory alignment give us a disadvantage.


Because as a protectionist organisation with a bigger internal market the EU can decide upon regulations which would disadvantage us more than them when it comes to dealing with external markets.


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]I voted leave because with the right plan it could have been the best option.

I expected regulatory alignment as a key to continued economic growth.


Now with the negotiated deal unable to pass a majority vote and Johnsons government clueless its best to review whats best for the country.

Put NO DEAL and REVOKE on the General Election ticket.

Who wins?[/quote]

Why did you expect that - it has the potential to put us at a diss-advangtage

even if adding to a GE voting sip was a viable option - and I cant see how or even why - why on earth should revoke be on there ...we have made that choice regardless of what Duplicitous MP's would like ..WE are not here to serve THEM.[/quote]


Lets examine that point.

Why should regulatory alignment give us a disadvantage.[/quote]

Because as a protectionist organisation with a bigger internal market the EU can decide upon regulations which would disadvantage us more than them when it comes to dealing with external markets.[/quote]

The EU will still remain BY FAR the UKs largest trading market with companies that require frictionless trade.
The key being close regulatory alignment.
Much of this guff about huge free markets opening up is pure fantasy, pure right wing propaganda.

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Let's examine Labour's policy on Brexit then KK. What is it again ?

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August 1 1498 South America

Christopher Columbus became the first known European to visit present day Venezuela.
His mobile phone struggled to find a signal.

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August 1 1498 South America

Christopher Columbus became the first known European to visit present day Venezuela.
His mobile phone struggled to find a signal.


He went there with a preconception that his mobile phone would work and he simply couldn't accept that it wouldn't whatever the evidence to the contrary.

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August 1 1498 South America

Christopher Columbus became the first known European to visit present day Venezuela.
His mobile phone struggled to find a signal.


Hardly surprising there was no signal in socialist controlled, Corbyn supported, Venezuela

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Christopher Columbus became the first known European to visit present day Venezuela.
His mobile phone struggled to find a signal.


Hardly surprising there was no signal in socialist controlled, Corbyn supported, Venezuela


I thought you would like that one.

Maybe we should blame Jeremy for 4G

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August 1 1498 South America

Christopher Columbus became the first known European to visit present day Venezuela.
His mobile phone struggled to find a signal.


Hardly surprising there was no signal in socialist controlled, Corbyn supported, Venezuela


I thought you would like that one.

Maybe we should blame Jeremy for 4G


Why not !!!!

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]August 1 1498 South America

Christopher Columbus became the first known European to visit present day Venezuela.
His mobile phone struggled to find a signal.[/quote]

Hardly surprising there was no signal in socialist controlled, Corbyn supported, Venezuela[/quote]

I thought you would like that one.

Maybe we should blame Jeremy for 4G[/quote]

Why not !!!![/quote]

Us Socialists expect nothing less from the English dictatorship...

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