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 Post subject: Re: Next Tory Leader?
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It amazing how a bit of mud slinging instigated by a champagne socialist regards his private life can have such a disproportionate impact on Johnson's standing.

One day he's the best thing since sliced bread (or maybe more appropriately Marmite) , one phone call to the media and suddenly he's toast- with Marmite if you like.

The media (both real & esp. social) do not have a right to intrude on his private life.

From what I understand his treatment - and by association that of his partner- in the loving socialist neighbourhood he lives in is disgraceful.

Yet again highlights the way we allow the loud mouthed minority of social media to dictate greater policy.

If Hunt is preferable to him then we must really be desperate- pathetic.

However I'm not sure challenging Hunt to commit to a No Deal exit by 31st October is necessarily going to increase his standing in the Membership ...he could be tying his own hands there.


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Everyone has a right to a private life.

That said Boris wants to take over as PM at a time of great turmoil in the country when good judgment and a sound temperament of the candidates are relevant considerations.

Boris' backers vaunt his personality and charisma-particularly in the context of an election versus Jeremy Corbyn as good reasons to vote for him. On the other hand the many in his own party who voted against him see his personality as a liability. Based on what I have read many who have worked with him seem to support the latter view. The fact that no sooner had he got the nomination as one of the two going forward to the members ,he ends up talking to the police does not bode well. If he can't handle a conversation with his other half on a Friday night ,what chance he will handle the pressure of major stress in office?

Also interesting to note that in his interview with Laura Kuenssberg last night , he evidently didn't understand that if we don't sign the Withdrawal Agreement, there will be no implementation period. A schoolboy error for the supposed saviour of Brexit. Funnily enough the one hope I have for him in office is that when the penny finally drops that he has to sign up to get out then his bullying/blustering qualities will force exit with a deal over the line. He wants glory for Boris above all other things. Get us out by 31/10 with a deal and he will have his place in history. He is capable of selling the benefits of any scraps thrown to him by the EU in the political declaration as a worthwhile compromise to achieve Brexit by the deadline with a deal, confident any problems can be sorted out later.I have little doubt he would sell out the DUP to get it done. Let's hope if he wins -and I think he will-he pulls this off.


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Everyone has a right to a private life.

That said Boris wants to take over as PM at a time of great turmoil in the country when good judgment and a sound temperament of the candidates are relevant considerations.

Boris' backers vaunt his personality and charisma-particularly in the context of an election versus Jeremy Corbyn as good reasons to vote for him. On the other hand the many in his own party who voted against him see his personality as a liability. Based on what I have read many who have worked with him seem to support the latter view. The fact that no sooner had he got the nomination as one of the two going forward to the members ,he ends up talking to the police does not bode well. If he can't handle a conversation with his other half on a Friday night ,what chance he will handle the pressure of major stress in office?

Also interesting to note that in his interview with Laura Kuenssberg last night , he evidently didn't understand that if we don't sign the Withdrawal Agreement, there will be no implementation period. A schoolboy error for the supposed saviour of Brexit. Funnily enough the one hope I have for him in office is that when the penny finally drops that he has to sign up to get out then his bullying/blustering qualities will force exit with a deal over the line. He wants glory for Boris above all other things. Get us out by 31/10 with a deal and he will have his place in history. He is capable of selling the benefits of any scraps thrown to him by the EU in the political declaration as a worthwhile compromise to achieve Brexit by the deadline with a deal, confident any problems can be sorted out later.I have little doubt he would sell out the DUP to get it done. Let's hope if he wins -and I think he will-he pulls this off.


As I said elsewhere on here (I think it was on here anyway) show me a man who says he has never had an argument with his partner and I'll show you a liar ..or an idiot who didn't realise it was an argument.
You say he 'ended up talking to the police' that's because some champagne socialist who has admitted to a dislike of Boris took it upon themselves to call them, and when things didn't go as they liked told the Guardian , so I'm not sure what relevance that has to be honest -it's a moot point.

I don't believe for a minute he didn't know without the WA there would be no implementation period - even I knew that.

However the WA is universally disliked in parliament - voted against 3 time by substantial numbers so why the hell should we sign it?

It is the EU that have said no-trade talks until the WA (or at least the political declaration aspect of it) is signed ...whys that do you think?

You talk about 'the scraps the EU will throw him as if we are a dog.

If you don't think the EU will talk trade immediatey afterwards then you are not the negotiator you purport to be...not matter how much the French want to screw us over to deflect Marcon's own inadequacies.

The real issue here is the EU don't believe we will walk away with No Deal, that's the problem ...and has always been the problem.

Even now it seems will still be the problem due to those - like Roderick & Tobias & Dominic - who are even now STILL chanting their mantra of not supporting a no-deal.

There is simply no unity and its laughably pathetic .

it is this -and this alone during the 'negotiations phase'- that has forced the position we now find ourselves in.

I think those Liberal Tories need to decide if they prefer a Corbyn government to a No Deal ...and let their party know pretty damn quickly, so they can have the whip withdrawn.

Or this will go on forever.


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And both contenders as if by magic find the money tree to bribe the voters.

Its cuts by choice followed by spend spend spend.

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And both contenders as if by magic find the money tree to bribe the voters.

Its cuts by choice followed by spend spend spend.


Perhaps corbyn and McDonnell’s proposed policies have convinced them there is money sloshing around now.


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No surprise that Hunt reaches into the gutter. What a piece of work this guy is.

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No surprise that Hunt reaches into the gutter. What a piece of work this guy is.


When you know your target voter has his mind in the gutter, where else is there to go?

The real interest only starts when these charlies have to attempt to appeal and win over a House of Commons or the general public en masse in an election.

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No surprise that Hunt reaches into the gutter. What a piece of work this guy is.


When you know your target voter has his mind in the gutter, where else is there to go?

The real interest only starts when these charlies have to attempt to appeal and win over a House of Commons or the general public en masse in an election.


When you only represent the centre court crowd at Wimbledon you have to create thought patterns that enable the gammon vote.
It really is a study in English history how Tories fool the common person. Remarkable.

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No surprise that Hunt reaches into the gutter. What a piece of work this guy is.


When you know your target voter has his mind in the gutter, where else is there to go?

The real interest only starts when these charlies have to attempt to appeal and win over a House of Commons or the general public en masse in an election.


When you only represent the centre court crowd at Wimbledon you have to create thought patterns that enable the gammon vote.
It really is a study in English history how Tories fool the common person. Remarkable.[/quote

That one single word shows me how puerile you are.

You obviously seek confirmation of your thoughts amongst the children who like to use that phrase as an indication of their superiority...you truly are Down wid da yutt.

Oh and 'the common person' hey Knocker ...how very bourgeoisie.


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No surprise that Hunt reaches into the gutter. What a piece of work this guy is.[/quote]

When you know your target voter has his mind in the gutter, where else is there to go?

The real interest only starts when these charlies have to attempt to appeal and win over a House of Commons or the general public en masse in an election.[/quote][/quote]

When you only represent the centre court crowd at Wimbledon you have to create thought patterns that enable the gammon vote.
It really is a study in English history how Tories fool the common person. Remarkable.[/quote

That one single word shows me how puerile you are.

You obviously seek confirmation of your thoughts amongst the children who like to use that phrase as an indication of their superiority...you truly are Down wid da yutt.

Oh and 'the common person' hey Knocker ...how very bourgeoisie.[/quote]

I thought it was funny when those UKIP idiots turned their backs on the European anthem and were termed Back Gammon.
Its normally the term you would use for the Question time audience, thick as fuck Tories.

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For their "protest" to have had any worth whatsoever, they would have announced they were not taking up a single penny of the EU remuneration and benefits they will earn as MEPs.

Naturally, they won't do so though, despite many of them already being multimillionaires already. The British taxpayer will be funding Farage's very luxurious life until his dying breath.

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No surprise that Hunt reaches into the gutter. What a piece of work this guy is.


When you know your target voter has his mind in the gutter, where else is there to go?

The real interest only starts when these charlies have to attempt to appeal and win over a House of Commons or the general public en masse in an election.[/quote][/quote]

When you only represent the centre court crowd at Wimbledon you have to create thought patterns that enable the gammon vote.
It really is a study in English history how Tories fool the common person. Remarkable.[/quote

That one single word shows me how puerile you are.

You obviously seek confirmation of your thoughts amongst the children who like to use that phrase as an indication of their superiority...you truly are Down wid da yutt.

Oh and 'the common person' hey Knocker ...how very bourgeoisie.[/quote]

I thought it was funny when those UKIP idiots turned their backs on the European anthem and were termed Back Gammon.
Its normally the term you would use for the Question time audience, thick as fuck Tories.[/quote]

That seems to me to be A good demonstration of your total lack of tolerance of alternative views, your class warfare, your arrogance, and the way in which you underestimate and lack insight into the electorate kk.


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"The Tories fool the common person"???

Sorry KK - that simply will not wash! Or are you saying the mass of the 'common people' (how ever you manage to define THAT concept!) are so dim they cannot spot they are being fooled?

You really should not dismiss the 'common people' as being so ignorant and gullible. In my experience, they are pretty street-wise folk who are more than capable of spotting charlatans - chance why so many have turned their backs on Corbyn - or is that because they are so gullible (again!) that they believe all the negative portrayal of Corbyn by the Tory-loving BBC and other Tory media outlets?? (Socialist Worker and The Grauniad as honourable exceptions!)

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"The Tories fool the common person"???

Sorry KK - that simply will not wash! Or are you saying the mass of the 'common people' (how ever you manage to define THAT concept!) are so dim they cannot spot they are being fooled?

You really should not dismiss the 'common people' as being so ignorant and gullible. In my experience, they are pretty street-wise folk who are more than capable of spotting charlatans - chance why so many have turned their backs on Corbyn - or is that because they are so gullible (again!) that they believe all the negative portrayal of Corbyn by the Tory-loving BBC and other Tory media outlets?? (Socialist Worker and The Grauniad as honourable exceptions!)


Right or wrong its what I believe so yes the inability to research facts or to think for yourself has been lost in the UK.
I believe that to be the case in all walks of society even within MPs and the press.
Just thinking about a political writer who passed away recently, Christopher Booker, now there was a man who had his own thoughts and wrote what he thought. One of the few.

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"The Tories fool the common person"???

Sorry KK - that simply will not wash! Or are you saying the mass of the 'common people' (how ever you manage to define THAT concept!) are so dim they cannot spot they are being fooled?

You really should not dismiss the 'common people' as being so ignorant and gullible. In my experience, they are pretty street-wise folk who are more than capable of spotting charlatans - chance why so many have turned their backs on Corbyn - or is that because they are so gullible (again!) that they believe all the negative portrayal of Corbyn by the Tory-loving BBC and other Tory media outlets?? (Socialist Worker and The Grauniad as honourable exceptions!)


Right or wrong its what I believe so yes the inability to research facts or to think for yourself has been lost in the UK.
I believe that to be the case in all walks of society even within MPs and the press.
Just thinking about a political writer who passed away recently, Christopher Booker, now there was a man who had his own thoughts and wrote what he thought. One of the few.


With very little research, the "Facts" you post to bolster your fanaticism are shown up for what they really are. Do you therefore include yourself as one of the unwashed unable to see through the media mire ?

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"The Tories fool the common person"???

Sorry KK - that simply will not wash! Or are you saying the mass of the 'common people' (how ever you manage to define THAT concept!) are so dim they cannot spot they are being fooled?

You really should not dismiss the 'common people' as being so ignorant and gullible. In my experience, they are pretty street-wise folk who are more than capable of spotting charlatans - chance why so many have turned their backs on Corbyn - or is that because they are so gullible (again!) that they believe all the negative portrayal of Corbyn by the Tory-loving BBC and other Tory media outlets?? (Socialist Worker and The Grauniad as honourable exceptions!)

Right or wrong its what I believe so yes the inability to research facts or to think for yourself has been lost in the UK.
I believe that to be the case in all walks of society even within MPs and the press.
Just thinking about a political writer who passed away recently, Christopher Booker, now there was a man who had his own thoughts and wrote what he thought. One of the few.[/quote]

With very little research, the "Facts" you post to bolster your fanaticism are shown up for what they really are. Do you therefore include yourself as one of the unwashed unable to see through the media mire ?[/quote]


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Anyone who stops learning is old, whether twenty or eighty. Mark Twain


True learning includes accepting when you are proved to be wrong and adjusting your opinions accordingly. It also includes taking in information from various and objective sources and not just choosing material which reinforces your already formed beliefs, prejudices and opinions.


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When mayor of London Boris Johnson approved a 100m luxury development funded by a family of property billionaires who have now donated 50k to his leadership campaign.

Whether this is a coincidence or a thank you for services rendered is something a court should be deciding.

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When mayor of London Boris Johnson approved a 100m luxury development funded by a family of property billionaires who have now donated 50k to his leadership campaign.

Whether this is a coincidence or a thank you for services rendered is something a court should be deciding.



In whose opinion other than yours?


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When mayor of London Boris Johnson approved a 100m luxury development funded by a family of property billionaires who have now donated 50k to his leadership campaign.

Whether this is a coincidence or a thank you for services rendered is something a court should be deciding.



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And perhaps while the investigation is on they can look at McCluskey's London flats bought from members funds, and the mismanagement of London's finances by McDonnell , which was so bad Red Ken fired him!

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News of multiple voting forms reaching same address, same person.

Dodgy.

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News of multiple voting forms reaching same address, same person.

Dodgy.



But not as dodgy as momentum actually being fined for not following the rules at the last general election.


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What surprised me most about tonights leadership debate was the audience.

Clapping rather than listening when real detail was required to important answers.

It was as though the audience went to be entertained rather than to be informed.

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What surprised me most about tonights leadership debate was the audience.

Clapping rather than listening when real detail was required to important answers.

It was as though the audience went to be entertained rather than to be informed.

Very Sad.


You would have proffered the " OOOOO Jeremy Corbyn" chants that great his drivel when spewed over failed Essex Poly students ( or Momentum if you wish to use their rather silly tribal name).

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What surprised me most about tonights leadership debate was the audience.

Clapping rather than listening when real detail was required to important answers.

It was as though the audience went to be entertained rather than to be informed.

Very Sad.


Again I didn't watch it I have no time whatsoever for this Americanised approach , this pandering of the media that actually serves very little real purpose.

I mean did it sway your vote Knocker , have you changed your mind on where you put your tick?

I can't wait for all the idiots who start to spout "Well I didn't vote for him" ...yeah that's because we ain't America.


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I didn't want to watch it, as said an American style we don't need here really. I have lost any interest in politics this last few months and now look to avoid anything politic. It is sad but after 67 years of life on this planet, I will not vote again, you just waste your time on charlatans and selfish shits.

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I really wish they had done this without a studio audience, or at least one that was politically engaged.

As it was it seemed like those that couldn't be squeezed in for an episode of Tipping Point or The Chase, late afternoon drivel.

Johnson was a disgrace, all bluff and bluster and to think people vote for such a pompous *****.

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“Boris being Boris” (the phrase that has long been used to excuse him) is an act, a turn, a traveling show. Johnson’s father, Stanley, was fired from his job at the World Bank in 1968 when he submitted a satiric proposal for a $100 million loan to Egypt to build three new pyramids and a sphinx. But the son cultivated in England an audience more receptive to the half-comic, half-convincing notion that the EU might be just such an absurdist enterprise.

What he honed in his Brussels years is the practice of political journalism (and then of politics itself) as Monty Python sketch. He invented a version of the EU as a gigantic Ministry of Silly Walks, in which crazed bureaucrats with huge budgets develop ever more pointlessly complicated gaits. (In the original sketch, the British bureaucrats are trying to keep up with “Le Marché Commun,” the Common Market.) Johnson’s Brussels is a warren of bureaucratic redoubts in which lurk a Ministry of Dangerous Balloons, a Ministry of Tiny Condoms, and a Ministry of Flavorless Crisps. In this theater of the absurd, it never matters whether the stories are true; what matters is that they are ludicrous enough to fly under the radar of credibility and hit the sweet spot where preexisting prejudices are confirmed.

This running joke made Johnson not just highly popular as a comic anti-politician but, for many of his compatriots, the embodiment of that patriotic treasure, the English eccentric. There is a long tradition of embracing the eccentric (though in reality only the upper-class male eccentric) as proof of the English love of liberty and individualism in contrast to the supposed slavishness of the European continentals. No less a figure than John Stuart Mill wrote in On Liberty (1859) that “precisely because the tyranny of opinion is such as to make eccentricity a reproach, it is desirable, in order to break through that tyranny, that people should be eccentric.” Mill associated eccentricity with “strength of character,” but Johnson has been able to turn it upside down—his very weakness of character (the chaos, the fecklessness, the mendacity) provides for his admirers a patriotically heartening proof that the true English spirit has not yet been chewed up in the homogenizing maw of a humorless and excessively organized EU.

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